Public Feedback Meetings With the Community: General Session
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Stuart Kahan: Good morning, this is the special meeting of the village of ossining Board of Trustees it is Saturday February 6 2021 at just a little after 10am I will take attendance trustee white.
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Stuart Kahan: Here trust me Lopez.
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Stuart Kahan: Here trust me richie.
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Robert M. Fritsche: I am here.
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Stuart Kahan: And mayor 11.
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Stuart Kahan: Here mayor, I turn it over to you.
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Rika Levin: Thanks good morning and welcome to one of the first of three public engagements that.
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Rika Levin: The Board will be having over the next four weeks that includes.
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Rika Levin: Getting in public opinions and public input from.
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Rika Levin: All members of our public or, at least as many as we can have, I just want to set some ground rules and put this meeting into context.
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Rika Levin: If you will first of all, there are panelists on this meeting, and that includes the board of trustees our attorney and village manager Karen do Tory along with another staff member Jamie Hoffman is our communication.
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Rika Levin: A person to who will be here to help different people who want to speak, she will be able to look at the hands that go up.
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Rika Levin: things in the chat room will be looked at, so they can bring people on to the meeting to hear points of you about police reform and reinvention.
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Rika Levin: We invention collaborative make sure you in the right zoom call everybody.
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Rika Levin: there's a lot of different public engagements going on, both in this village in the town and elsewhere, so we are here to really hear from the public about police before him and reinvention collaborative.
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Rika Levin: Let me put i'm sorry just noticed that I forgot a very main character here, which is Richard Brady is here from matrix.
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Rika Levin: Consulting who has been hired to help the village board collect as much information as possible from various members of the public, and he will do a quick synopsis of where we are to to kick off the public engagement part of the meeting we're scheduled for about 90 minutes or so.
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Rika Levin: Just to frame our meeting, this is a result of government executive order that established.
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Rika Levin: Our desire across all the municipalities in the State of New York, large and small, to look at each municipality.
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Rika Levin: Through its governing body at police reform as we go forward and that's all i'm going to say everything is on the website, we have been filling it up with information.
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Rika Levin: We are thankful and grateful for the working committee that was appointed by the former mayor garrity along with the trustees to include members and the police members.
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Rika Levin: From areas different areas of faith and double a CP the LGBT Q alliance, the civilian police complaint review board members.
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Rika Levin: amongst many others and Richard can speak to that as well, when we go through this if you have any questions, if you would like to comment, we.
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Rika Levin: hope that you use the little hand that you have on the zoom platform and Jamie Hoffman will actually call out as we start listening to folks.
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Rika Levin: The next one, two or three people that want to speak, I do ask that you.
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Rika Levin: say on either your thoughts or questions or comments and we're going to try to go through everybody first before we attempt to go back to the same person again.
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Rika Levin: Meaning that we really want to hear, as many people as possible, not just one or two people and the chair the committee will be me so that if there's some questions if.
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Rika Levin: We need to ask for clarity, whatever i'm just please let us know, so I think we're off Richard Brady if you can kick us off.
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Rika Levin: and bring us up to date of where we are.
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Richard Brady: i'll do that Thank you mayor and thanks to all of you for having me here today, I am Richard Brady I am the President of matrix consulting group which was hired to help facilitate this process and I manage this project.
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Richard Brady: After we were hired in November, so let me share my screen i'm going to do my best to give a short introduction.
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Richard Brady: Five minutes or so, to help frame this discussion this morning that we're going to have so much to play from the start okay it's not working.
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Rika Levin: Yes.
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Richard Brady: Alright, so as as the mayor mentioned every community in New York was ordered by the state, through an executive order 203 is called.
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Richard Brady: to examine police operations in each of their communities with a view to reforming the place and making it more engaged with the public and more and engage engaged with best practices in policing.
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Richard Brady: It rose after the deaths of briana Taylor and George floyd and it represents a best practice that most communities in America are doing today.
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Richard Brady: The process designed by the state and adopted by the village of ossining was collaborative the board created a working committee.
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Richard Brady: which was comprised of local residents, which met several times before we were hired and met with us several times, after we were hired.
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Richard Brady: To develop what eventually became the suggested recommendations and the report has been posted on the website.
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Richard Brady: subcommittees were created from within the working committee, so we could provide some focus to the major topics that were summarized in the executive order by the state.
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Richard Brady: So we received Community input, as we went through this process in parallel with working with the working committee.
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Richard Brady: We had a large number of stakeholder interviews in the in the village and and some of the town as well.
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Richard Brady: We had six Community meetings some general ones and some focus ones as well, and then we had an online survey, which was incredibly well subscribed to 850 almost responses to the online survey and well over 200 people participated in the Community meetings.
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Richard Brady: And so, in all these public meetings we had.
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Richard Brady: The input we got was was really extensive on the issue of.
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Richard Brady: The need for police reform, the need to be police for the police to be gauged with the Community and to be unbiased and accountable to the Community.
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Richard Brady: So in these public meetings, the one this morning and the other two that we held later on in the month.
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Richard Brady: The Board will receive the input and will use the results to provide its report to the State done police reform and.
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Richard Brady: You know ossining so there, there are many recommendations and, in this report suggested recommendations I what I thought I would do is focus on.
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Richard Brady: Some of the major ones which which really are them define the major initiatives that arose from this process of working with.
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Richard Brady: The public and in our committees, the first one set of recommended suggested recommendations related to governance and oversight, we had a couple of recommendations about changes to the existing
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Richard Brady: CPC rp the citizen police complaint review board and one was to have it be entirely Community based and and not have the police Department on it, that is an extremely rare feature of a complaint review board it.
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Richard Brady: has an issue, it creates an issue of how independent, it is, and so this is more in keeping with complaint review boards in New York and around the country.
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Richard Brady: We think that it's its powers, could be increased by having an outside investigator to review complaint cases against the police.
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Richard Brady: Many communities do that some do it collaboratively with other communities in the region, and so that is one that came out of that as well, the next two sets of recommendations are more governance.
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Richard Brady: And we come up with a suggested recommendation to change the village Charter and the police act in the county to create a police board of Commissioners that.
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Richard Brady: would function independently, but would have board representation within it that would provide more general oversight of policies and operations and will report to the board.
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Richard Brady: And the Community about trends and policing and needed changes, and they would make regular reports, based on that.
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Richard Brady: We had an extensive dive into policies and procedures within the department and the first one ties into the previous set of recommendations to increase the transparency of law enforcement.
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Richard Brady: In the Community and having the policies posted online and many communities are doing that, today in New York and around the country and it's an important.
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Richard Brady: feature and transparency, we have other ones within the report we have a number of recommendations to adopt bias free policing and policies it's not unusual for pilots to sneak into policies and it needs to be explicitly stated.
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Richard Brady: That this is a goal of the village and the police department.
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Richard Brady: Thirdly, to reduce the perception of cooperation with ice suggested recommendation was to modify the general orders, so that ossining police department personnel.
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Richard Brady: will not respond to a nice operation unless they are specifically called to that location usually because of something that has gone.
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Richard Brady: wrong in the in the operation and not as a general standby.
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Richard Brady: internal operations, we had a number of recommendations, one is to.
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Richard Brady: Have a more appropriate alternative response to calls that involve mental health issues homelessness and substance abuse and create a crisis response unit, this is something or be difficult.
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Richard Brady: To do in ossining on its own, both because of the volume of the calls and and and the cost but done called.
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Richard Brady: cooperatively or collaboratively with a county or with your neighboring communities and including private nonprofit agencies could help achieve both the.
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Richard Brady: utilization of this unit, as well as mitigating the cost, and this is an important feature to recognize that.
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Richard Brady: The police department isn't the appropriate responder to every call, even though they may be responding collaboratively and these kinds of incidents, but they're often not equipped to handle.
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Richard Brady: The calls as appropriately as they could they could be better equipped by getting something that's called crisis intervention training CIT training.
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Richard Brady: which will improve their response and either having one person per shift or everybody is about 40 hours of training that have a full program there are various options out there to do 20 hours of training that could better equip them to respond to.
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Richard Brady: Calls involved mental health and other kinds of issues, many communities, including some of your neighbors have created a voluntary response registry that would.
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Richard Brady: Pre alert emergency responders not just the police, but fire and emergency medical services of.
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Richard Brady: situations in which there may be a mental health issue upon arrival and it allows a pre notification triage as a word pre arrival instructions, so that a more appropriate response can can be made.
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Richard Brady: There are a number of suggested recommendations in the report for new or improved community policing efforts, importantly, one of them was to designate police officer liaisons with community groups.
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Richard Brady: But also have a more meaningful presence in ossining schools, as well as that major Community events as well
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Richard Brady: tied to the previous page on ice for whatever that policy ends up being there needs to be a public awareness campaign promoted both in English and Spanish to explain what that role is to the Community, because there's a great deal of uncertainty about.
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Richard Brady: about what their role is lastly development officer mental health program to include counseling with a Tele therapy option.
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Richard Brady: and early intervention, this is an important recognition that this is an extraordinarily stressful job that kind of have a major impact on the service and to the Community, and they need support as well.
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Richard Brady: And lastly, in hiring and training, increasing the diversity in department hiring and promotional processes as well.
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Richard Brady: to work with us and in high school to start a program so that there are more local representation of police officers within the police department in ossining.
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Richard Brady: and develop a stage multi year training program that includes greater emphasis on implicit bias and anti racism and policing the escalation procedures procedural justice cultural competency and protests and again crisis intervention training Program.
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Richard Brady: These are becoming mandatory in many places.
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Richard Brady: So the next steps, the village board review the suggested recommendations in the reform report and in these public sessions The first one is the mayor mentioned.
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Richard Brady: is today and it's the first three that we will have in addition throughout the month and into my early March the mechanisms that we've used to get input from early on in this process, about emailing us directly at this email address ossining and matrix eg.net.
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Richard Brady: And the two telephone hotlines we create a one in English and Spanish to that goes to an automated voicemail only that only the consultants will hear only two consultants look.
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Richard Brady: At the emails that are sent that helps augment the input that we get as part of this process, and then, lastly, the village Board will reform plan and marginal submitted to the state by April 1 which they're required to do.
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Richard Brady: So I will stop sharing and turn it over to the board to initiate the input process.
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Rika Levin: Thank you.
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Rika Levin: Thank you, Richard um let's call this some housekeeping pieces and a couple things that I left off a number one on the village board has.
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Rika Levin: The easiest email to reach as be iot at village of ossining.org, and that is, if you want to reach us a you have a couple of options, but blt at village of ossining.org goes to all of the trustees at once, I also would like to mention that starting last year, when this process started.
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Rika Levin: mayor garrity and Omar Lopez juste Lopez, were the two people that were representing the board on this committee and now as Mayor beginning January 1 of.
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Rika Levin: I took over in that role and trustee Lopez is still with us so he is the longest standing member.
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Rika Levin: Of this particular initiative we generally put one or two trustees on all of our major initiatives we spread ourselves out so that we are then reporting back to the board so that is sort of the process that we have and just again for housekeeping point of view, every municipality.
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Rika Levin: In the State of New York from ones that have 55 people 38 people in upstate New York across 55 square miles.
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Rika Levin: To buffalo New York with many students during some of its times to brooklyn New York, that is always busy and full of people.
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Rika Levin: All of us are in this together under the state request each municipality looks at its own police force by its own residence.
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Rika Levin: And people are involved, people have businesses here are people who have family here, so my ask is that when you are commenting suggesting recommending sharing with us that you do tell us.
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Rika Levin: Your relationship to the village in town of Boston where our police department is the one that we are looking at so with that i'm trustee Lopez longest standing trustee on this initiative would you like to chime in with your commentary.
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Omar Lopez: I think we've covered a lot of ground, the one thing that I would add, is as people from the Community are speaking, if you could please say your name and your relationship to ossining that would be great.
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Rika Levin: Thank you Jamie.
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Rika Levin: Are you ready here.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Of course.
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Jaimie Hoffman: My list is coming in alphabetical but as people raise their hands i'll be able to bring people in to ask questions into our.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Meeting, so if anyone would like to raise their hand, then I will bring you over, and if we have more than one person then i'll sort of read off the list and the order that.
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Jaimie Hoffman: People will be coming in, so I will mute myself again and then just wait for for hands to come up I don't know if there's Richard if you want to answer some frequently asked questions or anything like that in the meantime, while we're waiting oh actually we did get one.
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Jaimie Hoffman: And please accept my apologies if I say your name incorrectly, so the first person is a Casa your yellow I will be bringing you over and then next will be Gretchen so hang tight.
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Acacia Mauriello: Can you hear me.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Yes, we can hear you.
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Acacia Mauriello: hi okay thanks for the opportunity so first just chime in um i've had very positive experiences with ossining police I haven't had very many experiences with them.
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Acacia Mauriello: And I, but I do hope, I don't know you know what else is going on behind the scenes, but I would hope that, especially the recommendation about.
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Acacia Mauriello: Removing the police from the civilian complaint review Board will be sort of an easy thing to accomplish again, I think that you know overwhelmingly it seems like.
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Acacia Mauriello: The organization is doing a great job, but that seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing you know we could do to improve perception, you know and relations, just to you know.
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Acacia Mauriello: avoid even the appearance of you know they're being conflict or you know people not feeling comfortable coming forward and things like that, if there are issues and I participated, some of the earlier.
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Acacia Mauriello: sessions and people definitely brought up some things that were pretty egregious I hope they weren't common experiences
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Acacia Mauriello: And there does need to be a safe place for people to address those things without feeling intimidated that's all but again overwhelmingly you know only positive things to say thank you.
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Rika Levin: Thank you, Miss Maria low appreciate your input.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Thanks i'm going to take you out of here, and then we will be bringing Gretchen it.
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takes me a moment sorry.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Okay Gretchen I am going to be bringing you over.
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Jaimie Hoffman: you're here gotcha Thank you.
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Gretchen (she/her): hi can you hear me okay.
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Rika Levin: Yes, okay.
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Rika Levin: Good.
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Gretchen (she/her): name is Gretchen I usually her pronouns I live in the village of ossining um and I yeah I think the recommendation sound really great.
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Gretchen (she/her): definitely agree with this civilian complaint board, in part because I know somebody who is part of one in a larger municipality, and has talked about how constrained, they are when they have findings.
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Gretchen (she/her): To do anything about it and how much of a presence, the police, has.
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Gretchen (she/her): On the board and how much that limits their work, so I think that's really a great recommendation, even if it's not common practice um.
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Gretchen (she/her): The other thing I just wanted to flag was I was on one of the listening sessions, and I think the recommendations.
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Gretchen (she/her): put forward today sound really strong but I didn't know if it's sort of embedded in some of the things, but on the session I was on there were a lot of examples of youth facing harassment.
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Gretchen (she/her): From the police and it didn't feel like in the recommendations, as highlighted that didn't come through a lot so um.
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Gretchen (she/her): That might be embedded again in some of the bias things and policy things that you touched on, but I just wanted to flag that as something that I had heard a lot of in that session and didn't quite see represented fully here thanks so much.
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Rika Levin: Thank you appreciate your input.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Thank you so much Gretchen chassis Lopez, did you want to address the question that is in the oh actually i'm sorry I don't know if you wanted to read what was in the question answer.
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Omar Lopez: yeah I got coffee I forgot to mention that she is our village President.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Thank you, so we don't Is there anyone else from our attendee group that would like to ask a question.
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Jaimie Hoffman: We also have folks that are phone call and listeners that we can promote there's three people on the phone.
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Jaimie Hoffman: You can obviously not raise your hand, but I can bring you over, but I don't want to put you on the spot so i'll let the board decide if we want to bring one of those three over to address them but.
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Rika Levin: You know if they have a question or comment or.
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Jaimie Hoffman: You don't.
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Jaimie Hoffman: i'm saying it's up to you if you'd like me to bring them over to ask them and they can say no Question No, no question if you'd like but I don't want to put any of those three folks on the spot.
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Rika Levin: Okay, so.
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Jaimie Hoffman: So, for now, we don't have anyone raising our hands.
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Rika Levin: So why don't we do that why don't we just bring them on if they don't have anything to say, but I would I would hate, not to.
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Rika Levin: The opportunity what i'll do is since we can see there, we can see the phone numbers, but the folks in the.
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Jaimie Hoffman: audience can i'm only going to say the last four digits of the phone number, as I allow you to talk and we'll give you maybe 10 seconds to even say yes or no, and if you say nothing you can stay muted there's no no pressure okay.
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Jaimie Hoffman: The first phone number i'm going to bring over and in 2514 i'm going to put you over you are not required to say anything so i'm bring you over now.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Okay couple more seconds says it lasts a long time that the three seconds feels like.
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Jaimie Hoffman: i'm.
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Omar Lopez: Jamie i'd already been muted on their side.
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Jaimie Hoffman: They are muted they might be there on an iPhone they might have hit hit mute they choose to do that that's up to them Okay, so I am going to take this person out.
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Jaimie Hoffman: And then i'm going to go back the next hour i'm sorry there is someone though that does have a question the name is listed here is a Sri Sri I am going to allow this person to speak they're coming over now, thank you.
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Jaimie Hoffman: A story, if you want to unmute and tell us your relationship with ossining Thank you.
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A Sri: My name is Eva three jansa and I lived in ossining for.
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A Sri: Over 35 years and I don't have much of a question when I have as a thank you because back in when the governor pass this legislation, I thought that.
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A Sri: Because of covert and because of general inertia, this would not really be a process that it would be brought up in.
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A Sri: There would be some sad consultation and.
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A Sri: would be there would be some measly legislation brought up in March, and it would be quickly passed and it would be forgotten, so I want to thank the village for trying.
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A Sri: for putting the resources out there and for the committee for putting so much time and energy and actually coming up with a list of what looks like.
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A Sri: Pretty darn.
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A Sri: reasonable suggestions I do want to caution that we can pass the legislation and then do nothing.
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A Sri: So that there still needs to be a good deal of work happening, after all this and.
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A Sri: that this needs the energy needs to remain that I have to say I think the Police has gotten better in the 35 years.
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A Sri: That i've been here.
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A Sri: i've had some recent reasonable interaction with them all the first 20 years were truly terrible.
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A Sri: i'm so mostly I have a thank you and a warning, we need to keep it up thanks so much.
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Rika Levin: Thank you so much um first of all thank you for the commentary.
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Rika Levin: You also open the door for me to.
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Rika Levin: Really once again.
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Rika Levin: explain to the public how grateful, the Board is and everybody involved that we had such an active vibrant energized working committee, these are all volunteers.
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Rika Levin: pull through all different parts of our community as best that we were able to gather, who are also willing to do the work that some people would like to be on this committee but.
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Rika Levin: Time doesn't allow I thank you for reminding us all I think some of us have just gotten so used to it and not in a good way.
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Rika Levin: That we're in the middle of a global pandemic and getting everybody together and having that salting room that was able to bring people together and reach out to people.
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Rika Levin: You know it's really I think ossining is a very active Community that we have lots of people involved in many ways, and I appreciate how long you've lived here so that you've seen a change.
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Rika Levin: In the police, because oftentimes people did differentiate i'm talking about police from 2025 years ago.
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Rika Levin: Or, they would say i'm talking about the current situation that was really important for the consultants to hear and was very important for the board.
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Rika Levin: To also hear, so there is a lot of gratitude to all involved in this and, as far as keeping the energy, so I just want to correct some lexicon.
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Rika Levin: it's not so much about passing legislation, per se, this is a plan that's submitted to the state of on or before April 1 that every municipality is doing.
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Rika Levin: Some of the recommendations will be approved, some of the recommendations may be approved before a later time.
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Rika Levin: And some of the recommendations may not be approved, right now, with an explanation for why that might be the case, they might not be legally viable, they may be something that the state has to approve not.
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Rika Levin: Not a village, we are bound by our own Paris village, so I thank you for also giving me the opportunity for.
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Rika Levin: For going through all of that, and I really appreciate, and I am in total, we, as the whole board that these this plan is not something we're passing we're not passing, but rather a plan that we plan to work with, as we move forward.
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Rika Levin: Omar, I always feel that you're the other Member on this initiative and zoom is not an open source system, but the nice thing about as I look at the gallery i'm looking to see if you have anything to add i'm not obligating you to i'm just asking you have something to add to that.
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Omar Lopez: Sorry, thank you mayor nothing to add but i'll move on to the next question here we have a few questions in the chat, though.
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Omar Lopez: She lost speller says, please explain defined and clarify meaningful presence in schools and the intended purpose, and this is coming from sheila speller who's a village of ossining resident homeowner and taxpayer, I thank you sheila.
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Omar Lopez: Richard if you could in the work that you've done with the subcommittee's two weeks extent you can answer this question Richard.
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Richard Brady: Sure sure so first of all, what we are not talking about here is more of the traditional school resources officer kind of roles we're not talking about.
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Richard Brady: Some stale decades old programs.
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Richard Brady: Relating to drug enforcement and things like that we are talking about more casual kinds of presence in the schools we're talking about mentoring.
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Richard Brady: We are talking about, there are some good programs out there for violence reduction for impressionable kids that are in middle school, particularly, and so the purpose is to reduce potential fear of the police and to make police more.
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Richard Brady: More engaged with youth in the Community and more approachable.
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Rika Levin: Thank you, Richard.
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Rika Levin: Omar is there, another one in the chat yeah i'll go i'll go through yeah.
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Rika Levin: I was gonna suggest that, please.
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Omar Lopez: The next we have shandy speller and, similarly to Jamie and when I apologize if I mispronounce your name.
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Omar Lopez: shandy spell or visit village residents, as will the village board create and make public, a plan for how they will implement the recommendations, they accept, including a timeline and budget.
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Omar Lopez: So that's a great question shady i'm going to answer them I hand it to the Mayor to follow up.
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Omar Lopez: So while we may not have an explicit plan to say here's exactly what the timeline is going to be, we may end up doing that.
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Omar Lopez: We may end up incorporating it into existing plans that we have we have already a list of village priorities for the year so we may just roll that into.
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Omar Lopez: Some of those there were other recommendations were in may make sense to have the chief own because of the nature of the recommendation and so it's going to really depend.
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Omar Lopez: And we have was will have to discuss it that's not something that we have come to a determination for so what the plane is going to be, or what the timeline and budget for the different items are going to be Amir anything to add there.
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Rika Levin: No, I think you said it all this is recommendation we have two more meetings, after this we have people that email us directly individually, we are collecting all of that information.
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Rika Levin: We will then synthesize all of it, we will put a plan together, we will then as a board or five of us with the Villa staff with the Attorney with Richard.
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Rika Levin: Think through how we want to roll it out what we can do short term long term, etc, the question about making public is frankly even this is being recorded this is.
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Rika Levin: it's going to be public.
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Omar Lopez: Our next question comes from rob in the town of Austin being a 10 year resident.
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Omar Lopez: has two questions, the first question, I believe, cheese Sylvester is on this committee, you can you confirm here supportive of all aspects of this plan so i'll respond to this first question and then.
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Omar Lopez: we'll get to the second one, so the chief has I communicated his support of this initiative in general
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Omar Lopez: we're at the point now where we're still we're still talking about the specific recommendations, and so I can't speak for the chief and his support of specific aspects of the plan.
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Omar Lopez: But what I can say is that the chief is committed to improving the ossining police in serving our Community, and so I know that he stands behind a wanting to do that, until will have to get his perspective on exactly how you get there anything that you would add there there no.
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Rika Levin: I think that covers it Thank you.
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Omar Lopez: The second question, can you go into any more detail about the recommendation to reform how mental health police calls will be handled.
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Omar Lopez: Has that plan been laid out or well that'd be developed, once these high level recommendations are approved i'm going to once again pivot to Richard I to start us off if you go.
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Richard Brady: Okay, thank you, Omar, yes, and I think the the second question hits directly at it depends on what the program is among the recommendations.
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Richard Brady: suggested recommendations within the report, this is the one that's going to take.
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Richard Brady: Probably the longest and it would and it's not just up to you it's going to be a more regional kind of an effort, so it depends on what comes out of that process, so the value of it that as many communities have discovered.
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Richard Brady: In New York and around the state is that police officers, as I said in my summary remarks are not equipped typically to handle the calls that involve mentally i'll search clearly there is an enforcement.
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Richard Brady: effort as part of our response, but in terms of doing something meaningful for the people getting them involved in programs.
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Richard Brady: Talking them down dealing with homeless situations and.
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Richard Brady: is an important part of the program that police aren't equipped or have the time to do they are if they're if it's not a.
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Richard Brady: Situation in which an arrest is being made it's a few minute response and then they're out, so this is designed to develop more of a case management approach, so that people with mental health issues, the homeless, etc, can have outreach to more meaningful programs, to help them.
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Omar Lopez: Thank you, Richard so.
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Rika Levin: In many of the conversations we went really quickly through the one on one interviews, there were also conducted I I heard the chief being mentioned, but please be aware that police officers were also.
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Rika Levin: different questions, so it is we can we tend to focus on the chief because he runs the police department, but it's it's bigger than the chief as well in that.
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Rika Levin: Other officers were also asked and the board members were asked as well we do get a lot of insight.
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Rika Levin: into some of the issues that arise in this particular wellness health and mental in the illness conversation and the amount of work involved.
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Rika Levin: With that, and it is bigger than our municipality it's bigger probably than our county it's a it's a national issue right now across as Richard said so good that it came up how we then put it into a plan, what we do with it, we will have to discuss as a board.
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Omar Lopez: Thank you mayor.
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Omar Lopez: And although I always call on the mayor if I trust these white ricky or Casado have anything to say, please, by all means unmute yourself and and chime in so i'd like to next pivot to Joe so Jamie we can help would go around.
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Omar Lopez: And then we'll go over to the chat once again.
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Jaimie Hoffman: No, thank you very much, so i'm going to bring over Joe I just want to remind you to give us your relationship to ask okay you're coming over now, thank you
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Joe: Hello.
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Joe: yeah just telling the president of the pva here in ossining and my question was if the plan i'm sorry if the Board and the other committee planned on meeting with the pva to go over this plan, because there are a lot of good points and there's a lot that needs to.
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Joe: be gone over.
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Joe: sorry about the dogs i'm not sure exactly how many of our members were I like to do that at some point Oh well.
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Omar Lopez: Thank you, Joe.
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Omar Lopez: as well, so i'm actually going to combine questions i'm going to combine your question, Joe with a question from the chat from.
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Omar Lopez: Casa morelia who spoke earlier, who asked, is it possible for the mayor or the board to talk a little bit more about the feasibility of implementing the recommendations listed here, so I just to give you a sense of the process we had.
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Omar Lopez: working committee i've come together and and look at all of these different aspects of our police department, we had public input in many different ways.
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Omar Lopez: And it resulted in these recommendations, so these recommendations and now need to be.
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Omar Lopez: evaluated for a feasibility right so from a budget perspective, what is the feasibility, from a legal perspective, what is the feasibility from I i'm.
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Omar Lopez: You just mentioned the pva contract from a contract perspective, there are many different perspectives that I this plan is to then be filtered through to ensure that it's feasible.
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Omar Lopez: And so I, we are now as the board of trustees going through that process and getting feedback like your show is helpful in I ensuring that there aren't any.
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Omar Lopez: lenses that we're missing when evaluating the plan mayor or my fellow trustees anything that you would add and then would love to pivot to Richard.
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Rika Levin: i'm going to add something, but to your point this board works as a team really an oil initiatives, which is why we're going back and forth and i'm not just sharing and i'm not the only one speaking so I appreciate.
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Rika Levin: The good reminder Omar so i'm not asking everybody to speak, but I do want to give some space to my colleagues on the board to see if there are any.
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Robert M. Fritsche: Other yeah I just want to speak to to Joe Spinelli the yes, the answer is yes i'm In short, the the executive order states to come.
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Robert M. Fritsche: You know, for Community outreach and the police, so you know we we will be doing something you know we as a board have to decide when we're going to do that it, I imagine, be relatively soon i'm not speaking for the mayor schedule, but yes, you guys will be.
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Robert M. Fritsche: included on this we we want to go through this, we want to do it right, we want to include everybody so in short lancers guess unless the mayor says anything different.
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Rika Levin: manny I see you and thank you manny Thank you.
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Manuel R. Quezada: Yes, um you know I really don't want to repeat everything I said, obviously, but I think is is essential for us to work with with the pva membership, because this is a Community effort is is a group effort.
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Manuel R. Quezada: So we definitely be just like we are having this public meetings, so we can hear arm and we can better ourselves and understanding the issues.
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Manuel R. Quezada: That is the same token it's important for us to have that direct communication with them as well because that's something that we want to embrace are the same time, so I agree with with everything else of my members of my colleagues outset So yes.
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Rika Levin: I don't see Dane on meeting so i'm assuming we're good yes Dana Okay, thank you um So in addition to what's being said, the most important thing for me, one of the most important, in addition to said, is this.
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Rika Levin: Sustainable plans and recommendations that work are the ones that have buy in from all parties concerned.
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Rika Levin: it's just the way life is it's the way it is with all human relationship.
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Rika Levin: forcing people to do stuff demanding that they do stuff less than the short term and people walk away and feel good and then the next issue comes up and government, the next elected official The next major problem that everybody then jumps to.
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Rika Levin: That is not the intention of this sport, by any stretch of the imagination executive order or not.
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Rika Levin: It is absolutely the intention of this board that we come up with a sustainable plan that makes significant improvements across the board short term midterm long term beyond the tenure of any single individual.
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Rika Levin: So to do that, I think the one of the things that we have to do is look at the plan and and use.
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Rika Levin: That litmus test, because that is our intention, it is exactly what we want to do is come up with something sustainable where everybody feels.
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Rika Levin: To joe's point to everybody else's point that has gone on so far, I will speak, probably the rest of day and the other engagements that we have and continue to have, is how do you keep.
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Rika Levin: Something sustainable over the long term, so that material change and improvements occur.
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Rika Levin: Year in, year out, and that it becomes a part of how one does business, not a checklist we did it let's move on to the next thing.
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Rika Levin: One of your Community members always reminds me it's sometimes government works like popcorn every time a kernel POPs somewhere, you will run deal with it, and then you move on to the next popcorn that POPs somewhere else.
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Rika Levin: That is not the intention of this, this is a serious issue, this is a plan for improvement across the Community.
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Rika Levin: In my opinion, as a mayor and i've spoken to a few mayors in our region in the past couple of weeks about what they're doing.
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Rika Levin: I sat in a couple of Community engagements in peekskill I have looked at what new Rochelle is doing have spoken to the mayor's.
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Rika Levin: One of the things that is a concern is that, how do we learn from other municipalities as well, so.
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Rika Levin: here's a great opportunity, how do you come up with sustainable plans that makes sense for everybody, so I do want to at least end with that exclamation point to to talk about what I think is a point of view, for me, but I think my colleagues on the board as well, who is next Jamie.
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Jaimie Hoffman: We have Leah Nelson Leah i'm going to bring you over I want to remind you, to first mention your first name your last name and your relationship to asante Thank you.
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Leah Nelson: hi my name is Leah Nelson I am a member of the local house of worship, as well as a member of the ossining n double a CP I don't live in ossining so I don't know if you want to hear from me or not.
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Leah Nelson: Oh, thank you, I think you're doing great work, I just want to make a suggestion that I have, I have suggested it before in the public meetings.
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Leah Nelson: But this suggestion has been promoted by the aclu as well as by westchester counties police reform Task Force members um it.
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Leah Nelson: It combats the protections the police have through qualified immunity.
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Leah Nelson: The police departments contract contract with the village should be changed to specify that the police department.
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Leah Nelson: Would indemnify the village for settlement fees paid victims and findings of police misconduct currently settlement fees incurred by police are paid through the village budget, which means taxpayers paid for it.
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Leah Nelson: Now, I say this in quotes but this change would make bad quotes a liability to the police department.
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Leah Nelson: It would make police less likely to commit misconduct and make fellow officers more likely to restrain and our report.
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Leah Nelson: Other officers in instances of miss misconduct and i'm not saying that ossining has bad COPs or anything but I think this would be a great plan to implement across the country really.
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Leah Nelson: To keep police accountable and to nip it in the bud if misconduct is on the horizon, thank you very much.
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Jaimie Hoffman: So I wanted to remind you that we do have those folks we talked about that were on the phone and I will remind you of what i'm doing and then i'll be bringing them over.
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Jaimie Hoffman: One by one, so we, the next person that i'm going to bring over which again you're not required to speak, but we want to give you an opportunity to unmute should you want to.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Is the person with the phone number ending in 6539 will give you a couple seconds and then we'll move you back over so i'll be bringing you over now no pressure, thank you.
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Jaimie Hoffman: God, we have two more Okay, they can all go into the chat room and answer some of those when when you tell me that you're done giving.
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Rika Levin: The folks on the phone or chance.
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Jaimie Hoffman: going to be speaking actually mayor i'm going to bring over Betsy tomic who has there has her hand up if you don't mind before you go.
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Rika Levin: Go ahead.
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Jaimie Hoffman: All right, thank you Betsy i'm gonna bring you over please let us know your relationship with the village fastening Thank you.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Betsy brought you over if you can kindly unmute.
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Betsy Tomic: hi i'm Betsy i'm a resident of ossining I live on 16 rock ledge avenue near the STOP and shop and.
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Betsy Tomic: I didn't understand in the recommendations, why you put a five year timeline on to implementing all the trainings that the police force.
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Betsy Tomic: Would.
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Betsy Tomic: would go through, I mean I get it, that when you take a policeman off out of his job to put them in training, your you don't have as many feet on the ground.
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Betsy Tomic: And, but I also feel that training is ongoing it's going to be forever so maybe you need to hire an extra police man or two because one or two are always going to be in training.
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Betsy Tomic: And certainly everything we've heard over the past year is that you know some individual policeman, not in ossining but nationally, they don't know how to de escalate a situation or they don't understand.
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Betsy Tomic: Mental health issues, necessarily, and so I would think that as a village, we want to invest in making more policeman better at their job by putting money into it.
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Betsy Tomic: that's it Thank you.
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Rika Levin: Thank you Betsy there's a couple of points in there and i'm going to also hand it over to Richard, so the recommendation is being made.
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Rika Levin: Is not by the Board of Trustees that we are looking at their recommendations being made by a working committee made up of more than about 18 people I would say, in total, I must have the number wrong.
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Rika Levin: And so we're looking at recommendation made by members of the Community, not the recommendations made by the board of trustees.
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Rika Levin: So that's our next step to look at them and that's what we're getting public input, so that was the Community group recommendation Richard do you want us to talk specifically to the five you issue, a question which was raised yeah.
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Richard Brady: First of all, I agree with the person who asked the question, we were start we struggled quite a bit within our.
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Richard Brady: Our subcommittee and working committee on this very thing so we've made a recommendation for a lot of training, a lot of high priority, training and we try to come up with a a feasible way of implementing that in some reasonable period and and triage it in such a way that the most critical.
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Richard Brady: Training was received as early as possible within that period, but having been trained once in this within any period of time is not right, it needs to be recreated and your idea of looking at the staffing or even overtime applications associated with higher levels of training.
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Richard Brady: should be looked at.
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Rika Levin: Thank you, Richard.
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Omar Lopez: One one tiny piece that I would add Betsy what this is all with much respect I would I encourage the use of the term police officer, as opposed to police man, because we do have female officers.
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Rika Levin: I also want to the question of hiring more not hiring more actually we do sit down with the chief police.
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Rika Levin: We sit down during budget time which is open to the public and training police get trained on many, many things all year round, and the idea that we may be sure to police officer or to.
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Rika Levin: Actually, is a part of the whole budget process of.
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Rika Levin: Not only paying for training and the training isn't just done in the village that would be highly inefficient, you have a whole bunch of.
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Rika Levin: municipalities in the county of westchester in the State of New York going to various training modules it's part of their career path as part of everything we've always done a lot of training.
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Rika Levin: we've always been judged for budget for training and we in the chief and his team looks at exactly who needs to be wearing when what is being recommended is additional training on this particular topic which the Board will look at.
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Rika Levin: I want to look at a couple of chats we have one from rob.
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Rika Levin: Regarding ice, so one more please regarding the ice point Can you clarify if the recommendation is to allow.
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Rika Levin: ossining PD to respond to ice request for assistance, but only if requested will op de not respond to any ice request even a fast Thank you again to the village and the board for taking on this important planning i'm.
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Rika Levin: Omar, did you say you wanted to answer that.
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Omar Lopez: are sure i'll take a stab at it.
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Omar Lopez: Okay.
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Rika Levin: I was going to answer it, but I see that you want to answer so go ahead.
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Omar Lopez: Sure yeah.
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Omar Lopez: So um I think one important point to clarify, is what the plan recommend versus what ultimately gets implemented so the plan right now recommend that.
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Omar Lopez: Is the former of what you asked that i'll send you police department does not respond to any ice request unless it's called.
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Omar Lopez: Not the second part would that it's not that they don't respond, even if they aren't called so that's one clarification, but it will ultimately gets implemented is what results from this process, which I referred to earlier of looking at this through many different lenses.
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Rika Levin: Right, I would also just remind people I I personally have always found it very confusing to understand the different levels of government.
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Rika Levin: And when we get new trustees we always have this conversation federal state county local and we're under local rule in this on our Charter in this village ISIS a federal.
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Rika Levin: federal agency of the government, our police department has absolutely no jurisdiction, no say in what ice does as a federal agency, and there are many federal agencies.
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Rika Levin: it's often confused with a request for assistance, the request for assistance is oftentimes by people in our Community, who call the police for assistance, because there may be a problem.
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Rika Levin: And then, so when we get a little bit into jurisdiction but the issue of ice was discussed in quite a bit Richard my recollection I sat in on a couple of those and we're going to look at that and have a conversation with the police and.
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Rika Levin: look to see what we do with it.
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Rika Levin: And everything.
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Richard Brady: So the prevailing sentiment that came from the input that you mentioned, as well as from within the subcommittee and the working committee.
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Richard Brady: was not a bland request for assistance it was predominantly relating to our emergency situation in which another law enforcement officer was involved in something that needed additional help because of guns or violence or in some other way.
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Rika Levin: Thank you, thank you for the clarification.
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Rika Levin: I have tiffany Thomas asking Let me read it, I am a ossining resident for 46 year with one encounter with the Boston police, if I could consider that if this reform is need they should train the officers to be respectable while they are in uniform with.
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Rika Levin: With That being said, if you're responding to a call you don't have to come the incident with a macho man attitude with the intent of making the problem bigger, yes, we need.
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Rika Levin: The police to serve but we don't always need conflict from them as well, which always happens in the African American Community so um there was actually um.
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Rika Levin: I don't think that's a question so it's hard for me to answer um it's not a question, but I think that there was conversation about training not only being about how one.
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Rika Levin: uses a gun or even in the discussion about mental health and how that may be a case approach and what else can we do, as discussed earlier, this was just about good old fashioned.
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Rika Levin: Their people that are public serving in the police is one of them Retailers are also group of people that serve the public they face the public some jobs.
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Rika Levin: you sit at a desk you never see the public in your entire career, but this is a public facing environment, and I think there have been more than one request, so thank you.
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Rika Levin: tiffany Thomas for bringing this also to the foreground that public facing arm environments, in fact, you could argue that entire village staff is a public facing environment there needs to be more attention paid.
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Rika Levin: To how people behave respectfully of others, that is not to say that that is a huge ossining issue or the everybody behaves, but I think the comments that have been made is can we work on that a little bit more and
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Rika Levin: That is an area of improvement, so thank you for that Dana white I see you would like to say something here.
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Dana White: Yes, I, I agree with tiffany i'm on this point.
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Dana White: um I have.
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Dana White: My family had one interaction, which was disconcerting, where the police officers came to our door, and for a reason that turned out to be they were at the wrong address, and yet um.
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Dana White: The their.
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Dana White: demeanor with us was disconcerting.
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Dana White: We were you know
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Dana White: accused of being liars they went, the wrong house um and it just struck me that wow you know it's a customer service issue like i'm sorry that.
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Dana White: I don't know what you know they deal with tough stuff on on a regular basis, and they may come to a call with.
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Dana White: Certain attitude, but um
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Dana White: But I mean if someone had talked to me like that you know, a store or I want to talk to the manager about it, but I agree, I think, especially for women.
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Dana White: The.
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Dana White: The hyper masculinity that sometimes comes with police force enforcement can be a little disconcerting.
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Dana White: And i'm for the most part, you know I.
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Dana White: have had interactions with the police over the 30 years that we've lived here.
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Dana White: We had a break in and an almost a sexual assault.
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Dana White: In 2005 and in another home we lived in.
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Dana White: We were glad the police were there for that.
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Dana White: You know we've had.
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Dana White: Other interactions.
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Dana White: And for the most part, though, you know I would say that I was satisfied, but this one case continues to resonate with me this one thing, especially since I guess you know we haven't done anything.
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Dana White: um, so I do think that that that is something I don't you know I know it's it's hard to to change attitudes and stuff but um, but I think that that would be a good thing to try and make that must be.
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Dana White: I don't know i'm not a you know police officer I don't know how.
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Dana White: The pressures, they have to deal with, but I just wanted to agree with tiffany that it can be disconcerting.
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Rika Levin: Thank you Dana.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Anybody oh i'm Sorry, I just wanted to bring your attention to the fact that we have three people with their hands raised.
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Rika Levin: Before we have to we do if you could name, at least the next two so they know that they're up and when we're done with the three, I would like to go back to the chat room there were a couple of.
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Rika Levin: Comments questions there.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Okay, the first one i'm going to bring over again.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Excuse my pronunciations gunnell ride stroem next will be Virginia Stillman and then, following that will be Jennifer cabrera so gunnell restroom i'm going to be bringing over now.
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Jaimie Hoffman: you're here, Donald Thank you.
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Gunnel Rydstrom: Okay, thank you, I would like to just very quickly go back to the issue that Leon Nelson raised about indemnification, I would like to know, could you tell us what the historical record is oh number of settlements that the municipality has.
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Gunnel Rydstrom: paid for, and dollars over whatever period is readily available last year last five years, something like that, I mean, I think that, but it is an important issue and it would be, it would be very interesting to know what the actual record has been.
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Rika Levin: i'm sorry I didn't mean to interrupt were you done okay um I don't think people in the gallery.
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Rika Levin: have that information now, but I think our attorneys stored condoms on the line i'm might be able to look into that along with guarantee a Tory because they between the two of them have the budget information.
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Gunnel Rydstrom: Thank.
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Rika Levin: My correct or did I just fallen to you for something that I shouldn't have.
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Stuart Kahan: Know maybe we can come up with that I can just advise them is rich room that.
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Stuart Kahan: Certainly, during my tenure, and I believe, for a year or two before that are.
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Stuart Kahan: i'm aware, I think of one.
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Stuart Kahan: settlement that involved an action involving the police.
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Stuart Kahan: Most of the matters that come in through notice of claim or actions tend to be you know car accidents or things like that, with you know bad roads, but I will be more than happy to be able to go back and look at that.
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Stuart Kahan: scene, where those elements are and what they were about, but I can.
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Stuart Kahan: You can count them on one hand, I can I can I can.
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Rika Levin: over a five year period.
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Stuart Kahan: Is what you're saying least yes.
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Rika Levin: Okay, so not many but we'll get that information to you.
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Rika Levin: i'm sorry.
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Rika Levin: you're saying something.
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Gunnel Rydstrom: How many years is.
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Gunnel Rydstrom: Mr James can you.
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Stuart Kahan: Please rise from i've been here for four years, I can go back beyond that to just see how many but.
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Stuart Kahan: You know I can get you some information i'll get you i'll get you as much as I can that's What I can promise you.
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Gunnel Rydstrom: i'm not interested in, you know, accidents and things i'm interested in saturday's that were a result of police wrongdoing.
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Stuart Kahan: I understand man that's what i'm going to try to get for you okay.
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Gunnel Rydstrom: Great Thank you.
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Stuart Kahan: You got it.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Thanks Okay, I am now going to bring over Virginia Stillman and I wanted to remind everyone that we need to know if you could please share your relationship to asking okay miss Stillman i'm bringing you over now, thank you.
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Virginia Stillman: hi can you hear me, my name is Virginia or Jenny Stillman my mother was the only one who call me Virginia.
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Virginia Stillman: But it's okay.
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Virginia Stillman: i've been a resident here in ossining for a little over 13 years now, and I just wanted to pick up on the diversity of the police department, I guess i've never seen in any of the reports.
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Virginia Stillman: Nor have I heard any any of the meetings i've attended, you know what is the current makeup of our police department, I understand there's about 60 officers.
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Virginia Stillman: But I have no idea whether the current diversity reflects you know our demographics in our village by race by ethnicity by gender, so can someone address that and before I finish, I just want to say thank you to everyone who's worked so hard on this yeah.
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Rika Levin: Thank you um I don't have the exact numbers, if you ask me whether they're men, women, people of color.
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Rika Levin: Gender.
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Rika Levin: The answer would be yes and it's been a long time, we have Spanish speaking and all that, but the numbers, to be exact, Richard did you guys actually get that information because it's will get that information, the question is, do we have it right now on this panel.
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Richard Brady: We do have it, but I don't have it at my disposal right now.
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Richard Brady: The Prince it In summary, it does not reflect the most important issue is the need to have more Spanish speakers fluent Spanish speakers on the force and too aggressive the gender issue as well okay.
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Rika Levin: It doesn't reflect now, it probably always has a lag because people like all careers get hired at a certain time our population does not stay at the same place all the time it moves quite rapidly.
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Rika Levin: it's it's resident in demographic makeup and, frankly, we only get that demographic makeup once in about a decade that we then learn, I mean we could we know who lives here but demographics wise.
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Rika Levin: But it's clearly always a challenge across so to have a clear and exact representation of a community, so we do have the numbers and we'll get those to you, I think the bigger issue that you're bringing is how do we make it, what can we put in the plan to.
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Rika Levin: make it more reflective of the Community, that we have now in the Community, that we think we're going to have in the next five to 10 years and I think that's the bigger.
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Rika Levin: piece of this I don't want to put words in your mouth, but that's what I think I heard in some of the Community, meetings and subcommittee that went on.
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Rika Levin: So thank you.
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Manuel R. Quezada: mayor for me.
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Manuel R. Quezada: Please just kind of piggybacking what you were talking about all year we do with the last time that i'm.
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Manuel R. Quezada: that the working committed came in front of the village bore on a regular meeting, there was a presentation in our Member, but they do have.
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Manuel R. Quezada: They do have that and I believe the presentations in our website as well, and that should be part of the numbers, so we can definitely get that so sort of.
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Manuel R. Quezada: In a way, kind of answer the question on diversity, and I can only speak for myself as as a member of the board have been part of the.
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Manuel R. Quezada: sort of the interview process and, and I believe and i'm not in probably Omar in Rica can can kind of help me with this, but.
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Manuel R. Quezada: That was part of one of the recommendations, how do we integrate more diversity in in our police department, something that you guys have to keep in mind is we do.
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Manuel R. Quezada: The way silver server works is like you have to be Natasha to be in a list, something that to remind people here the village of us is that we do have a local list.
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Manuel R. Quezada: Because we have a local is we tend to hire new hires we tend to hire people our village residents so again, so those are members of the community and the interviews that I have imparted I want to say that we always try to look at the diversity.
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Manuel R. Quezada: You know, unfortunately, because we, we have a list that has limited informational limit people are to be as a part of the list again does a bigger conversation, or if anything.
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Manuel R. Quezada: So we are limited to see who is best to serve our Community um I I can honestly say we have hire people that are bilingual on my tenure on the board.
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Manuel R. Quezada: In diversity, as well, so again, not the diversity numbers that would probably look for but you know of the.
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Manuel R. Quezada: sort of like what the ideal is, but what is the ideal so so I guess to me is like I want to learn more.
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Manuel R. Quezada: But also we have certain limitations that we can do, either we because part of the recommendations I believe that was presented to us like we want it to be local but we wanted diversity.
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Manuel R. Quezada: So, because we have limitations on the list is like we can either choose one or another, and if we go to another than we deviating of what we already have so.
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Manuel R. Quezada: We that's something that I think, as a general topic, I think, is essential for us to understand what is the balance, what is the balance that we need to create.
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Manuel R. Quezada: And I think that's the form right now that we want to create that balance we want to listen to the Community, not you know to base on you know.
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Manuel R. Quezada: Based on the recommendation that was done, we want to hear the rest of Community and we need to assess and what are the next steps are.
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Manuel R. Quezada: I believe some of the questions on the chat where it's like what are the next steps, and what the budget is so there's a lot of things that I think.
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Manuel R. Quezada: We have to think as a village more, and I can only speak for myself, I don't want to speak with more the rest of my colleagues, we have to look at you know what is the.
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Manuel R. Quezada: bigger picture and what are the next steps are in what what we need to do first to get to second and third and fifth point sure, so it is just.
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Manuel R. Quezada: Have a working progress balance that we need to do if that makes any sense, I guess, hopefully answer so many questions and now one, but it gives I want to go back, we have a local list that we hire people that are residents in the village awesome.
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Rika Levin: Thank you.
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Rika Levin: christy to start up i'm
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Jaimie Hoffman: Sorry, I have.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Tomorrow, I have two more so I was going to let Jennifer compare in and then followed by kalisa Nancy so Jennifer i'm going to bring you over if you can.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Give us a relationship to ossining I would appreciate it, thank you.
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Jennifer Cabrera: hi i'm gonna pick up where I live in the village and i'm also a member of the working committee.
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Jennifer Cabrera: um so I actually wanted to jump in because I think some of our some of the answers to the questions that we've had about recommendations.
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Jennifer Cabrera: were not quite awful and I wanted to clarify some of those things.
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Right.
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Jennifer Cabrera: So the first one about the training timeline and why we said.
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Jennifer Cabrera: To do those trainings over five years, and that that was a decision to try to make it a little bit easier on the police department to get through these trainings some of these trainings are really long they take 40 hours.
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Jennifer Cabrera: So it's not feasible to have the entire department get trained on all of these different topics, you know, everybody doing another 40 hours a week worth of work.
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Jennifer Cabrera: Within just a year or two, but one of the things that we spoke about when we were talking about this in more detail and and i'll say I was not part of the subcommittee that made this particular recommendation, but i've talked to those people a lot about it.
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Jennifer Cabrera: One of the things that that we were really talking about extensively was to have cohorts of officers that are getting different types of trainings so that even if everybody hasn't gotten everything in your one, a lot of officers have had.
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Jennifer Cabrera: Some of each of those new trainings that we're talking about implementing but, but just from a cost perspective and a work perspective.
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Jennifer Cabrera: because some of these trainings are really expensive it is it's difficult to get everybody to take them all at at the same time.
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Jennifer Cabrera: Or, in a short time period, so we were really struggling with what the right balance was.
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Jennifer Cabrera: One of the recommendations that we have heard from a Community Member, more recently, is for the village to.
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Jennifer Cabrera: or for the department to look at adopting a train the trainer model, which is where somebody trains, a member of the police force to actually administer those trainings because that at least cuts down on the cost.
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Jennifer Cabrera: of implementing the trainings so that's something that we we've just heard recently and we haven't had a lot of chance to look into but it's something that i'm familiar with from a work perspective i've done that myself.
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Jennifer Cabrera: And I think it could be a really good solution to cut the cost, because you know these trainings are really important, and we want to make sure that our officers are comfortable with the amount of training that they that they're receiving, which is something that came through.
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Jennifer Cabrera: The the conversations that matrix had with them that was one of the things that that they told us they were hearing from the officers, which was that they wanted more trainings.
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Jennifer Cabrera: i'm also on the question of the ice.
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Jennifer Cabrera: The the.
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Jennifer Cabrera: Participation with ice and.
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Jennifer Cabrera: Under what circumstances op ED might might come to an ice call we really put in that request for a response.
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Jennifer Cabrera: as a way of protecting the residents, so if a if a resident calls and says, I need help ISIS here they're doing something illegal, we want to allow op ED to to come in and assist with them, which is part of the reason you know if you've heard that she talked about why oh PD.
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Jennifer Cabrera: I believe they observe what's happening there they're not really participating in it, or even escorting them, but the reason that they want to have op ED they're observing what's happening is to make sure that.
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Jennifer Cabrera: That bad things aren't happening, but what we're hearing over and over is that people have the perception that oh PD is helping so we want to allow them to help without giving that perception that they're complicit or that or that.
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Jennifer Cabrera: That they're participating.
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Jennifer Cabrera: In in that.
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Jennifer Cabrera: So those Those were my only two comments.
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Rika Levin: Thank you Jennifer I appreciate the clarification about the.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Thank you very much i'm going to bring over kalisa Nancy and then after that we're going to go into the Q amp a online so kalisa if you can please tell us your relationship to ossining and.
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Jaimie Hoffman: You begin your coming over now, thank you.
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Jaimie Hoffman: If you can unmute to Lisa.
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Kalissa Nancy (She/They/Ella): Hello.
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Rika Levin: There you are now we're here Lisa how are you.
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Kalissa Nancy (She/They/Ella): awesome Thank you i'm doing well um I would just like to support the.
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Rika Levin: Sir.
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Rika Levin: I don't I didn't want to interrupt, but I am interrupting i'm sorry, could you as Jamie and as a relationship tossing just so we have it, if you don't mind.
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Kalissa Nancy (She/They/Ella): Oh yeah for sure sorry I forgot um I yeah I grew up in ossining currently I resided peekskill, though, but you know, often in high school Grad.
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Kalissa Nancy (She/They/Ella): And so Austin is like very near and dear to me.
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Kalissa Nancy (She/They/Ella): So I just wanted to support the recommendation for the policy to have ice, you know not being in collaboration with the Austin police department, and I know that it was kind of.
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Kalissa Nancy (She/They/Ella): worded differently and the January 13 meeting with the police review board she Sylvester had admitted that there was a handshake agreement between ice and op ED.
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Kalissa Nancy (She/They/Ella): And I just wanted to say that, like there is a reason for like this public perception, even if they're not like actively engaging or helping ice, but at least from the viewpoint of a lot of Community Members who are undocumented.
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Kalissa Nancy (She/They/Ella): There is distrust within any kind of law enforcement or 30 figure because potentially if there is any engagement with the law on the on the on.
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Kalissa Nancy (She/They/Ella): Any criminal conviction or even something as small as like a traffic violation that potentially could leave that person to become deportable so already there is that combat fear and intimidation already.
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Kalissa Nancy (She/They/Ella): embedded within that relationship and then also like one of the tactics that is used across the nation and here is intimidation tactics and they disguise themselves as police officers to coerce Community members into compliance.
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Kalissa Nancy (She/They/Ella): And so I think that there is something to be said about you know the Community members having the option and having.
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Kalissa Nancy (She/They/Ella): really being empowered to call the police officers, if they want, if they want them to be present.
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Kalissa Nancy (She/They/Ella): And yeah I think I think that really should be respected, and I would I would I really enjoy that particular policy recommendation I think perhaps like when we have like the Spanish Community call there could be more conversation about that particular issue.
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Kalissa Nancy (She/They/Ella): But yeah Those are just my thoughts on the topic.
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Kalissa Nancy (She/They/Ella): yeah.
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Rika Levin: Thank you.
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Robert M. Fritsche: American I could I respond.
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Rika Levin: To that show yes um.
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Robert M. Fritsche: So just a point of clarification.
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Robert M. Fritsche: The.
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Robert M. Fritsche: The handshake that you referred to, there was a years ago there was an incident I and.
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Robert M. Fritsche: ice doesn't have to tell you that they're coming they can just come their federal they could do what they want, when they want and a result of that incident.
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Robert M. Fritsche: became a relationship between our police department or our chief and the head of the task force, where they when they do come, they give a notification, which they don't have to do.
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Robert M. Fritsche: arm and basically they they don't escort they observe and he observed for the safety of the residents that are around.
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Robert M. Fritsche: The.
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Robert M. Fritsche: The residents that's being approached you know you'd never know what's going to happen and to have them just respond because of a phone call from a neighbor they're.
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Robert M. Fritsche: they're driving into a tornado, so to speak, because God forbid, something does happen, and the person they're going after comes out shooting a gun or whatever it may be.
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Robert M. Fritsche: there's no identification of the ice people they're just coming in and knocking on your door and they're taking you, you know they're there.
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Robert M. Fritsche: You know that's that's that's a whole host of it's a federal thing but.
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Robert M. Fritsche: I think the clarification and I agree, it has to be.
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Robert M. Fritsche: conveyed to everybody out there, that what the purpose of the police departments doing they're not participating, they will only participate as a backup is my understanding, God forbid, something went terribly wrong but it, it gives them the identification of who the ice officers are.
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Robert M. Fritsche: Because if they are playing close and they pull up and something's going on, they don't know who shooting it who or whatever whatever's going on, so and I believe it there needs to be more clarity with you know, the Spanish speaking community and around the whole community of what.
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Robert M. Fritsche: op ED is doing all right um the fact that the relationship is there, I think, is great, you know
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Robert M. Fritsche: That they had the relationship that because, again they don't have to let you know they could just come in middle of the night, we have no idea anything 100 could come in and leave and you don't know unless somebody calls the police department so.
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Robert M. Fritsche: there's ups and downs to it, but I think once it's explained exactly what's going on and what the involvement is of the police department arm that they're there for the safety of the residents.
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Robert M. Fritsche: Basically that's what the idea of observing is and it's got to be totally explain that it's observing there is no escorting.
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Robert M. Fritsche: that's just an observation, so if they're going with certain place it's in a certain sector.
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Robert M. Fritsche: they'll get a call and then we're going to such and such and it's in sector three let's say they're going to call a sector car and say listen.
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Robert M. Fritsche: I don't know how they describe it that you know this is going to be happening, and you know just stay in the area that's all.
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Robert M. Fritsche: So hopefully that brings a little clarity to it and we you know we will get this out.
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Robert M. Fritsche: You know, depending on how we move forward with this with the recommendations, but you know it'll definitely be out and explain to the public, so they understand exactly what's going on that's all I just wanted to clarify that.
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Rika Levin: Thank you, Bob If I could just chime in and close that I actually was on a call probably more than then one, and not just in this Community, but but surrounding communities so.
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Rika Levin: communications is always a challenge, I mean people are married to one another and can communicate.
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Rika Levin: For many years, you know it's like two people have a challenge, let alone a large communities you're bringing up the perception that exists and the reality.
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Rika Levin: of people all documented and undocumented is is become apparently very, very clear, I think, in in this conversation it's also become clearer and others, but I think here.
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Rika Levin: Even more so, and we have to figure out how to communicate to the public and honestly and i'm going to diverge a little bit from Bob.
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Rika Levin: Sometimes it's really so challenging to get the truth out there that perception is just heavier and bigger a lift the one can imagine.
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Rika Levin: And we have to do our best to communicate, or we have to change the way we do things that is the point of the public engagement is to exactly look at all of those angles and synthesize the information, because what you've said i've heard over and over again.
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Rika Levin: And it's you know perception sometimes just stronger than reality it's not something I like it's.
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Rika Levin: problematic it's unfair to a lot of people involved so it's something that we I think we're all seriously looking at because Bob is correct in his analysis of.
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Rika Levin: The relationship, but it doesn't seem to be getting through to the public and at some point of perception, I think, is just a very heavy lift and we'll have to figure out what to do with it.
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Rika Levin: i'm gonna i'm gonna get back to this, I think, in a minute, when we look at some of the chat room things is there anybody else that wants to delve a little bit more into this.
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Rika Levin: or shall we move on to the next.
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Jaimie Hoffman: If I wanted to bring i'm sorry Richard.
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Jaimie Hoffman: I just want to bring your attention that we do have one other person that has their hand up before we.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Yes, I go.
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Jaimie Hoffman: down, yes, of course, so Richard if you want to when you're ready for me to bring them in just let me know, thank you
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Richard Brady: Very just very quickly, I think the major recommendation for us is that this policy needs to be developed, it for whatever that policy is it needs to be better communicated to the public for transparency purposes.
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Rika Levin: Thank you.
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Rika Levin: Well, said.
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Rika Levin: i'm go ahead Jamie.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Alright, no problem, thank you, Carlos i'm going to bring you over if you can please let us if you could start off with your first name your last name and your relationship to ossining you're coming over now, thank you.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Carlos you're here if you'd like to unmute.
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carlos: Yes, Hello Good morning, can you hear me.
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Yes, yes.
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carlos: Okay, yes, my name is Carlos been home i'm here lifelong resident of the US and in Community currently lived here over 20 years and I have friends and family members living here in the Community and i'd like to thank the opportunity to speak and for the.
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carlos: board here present to hear out the Community because it's very important, as you know, this process is nearing its end, I like to start out saying that.
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carlos: The police department, I believe, has a budget of $10,330,000 for 2021 and, as far as transparency, I believe that the current Union contract isn't available for the public to look at.
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carlos: So, you know as far as transparency i'd like to know if there's been any efforts made to make sure that the Community is aware of you know, the ongoing negotiations that's going on for the Union.
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carlos: As far as accountability, I see that there is a forum to you know file a complaint with the Community review board, but I see that even those complaints really aren't made public, so if you could please discuss what are some of the efforts being made to facilitate more transparency.
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carlos: well.
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Rika Levin: Let me thank you, Carl so let me answer a couple things number one the pva contract is public it was given to all the members of the committee to look at and it is I don't know if it's been put on the web, at this point.
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Jaimie Hoffman: It has morning.
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Rika Levin: So it's been put up because we were asked to it's always been public anybody could have foiled it at any time.
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Rika Levin: I myself didn't know that it was public so um it's maybe something that I didn't even think about but that's what's great about.
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Rika Levin: This entire process is in and of itself we've already all learned something maybe we didn't know before, or at least I have.
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Rika Levin: So it is public and it is out there, and when a new contract is negotiated and settled that will be up there, as the new contract, and I assume the pva contracts are public throughout westchester county if they're public here, if you want to foil other communities.
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Rika Levin: You know that's that's your right it's it's.
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Rika Levin: All public that was, I think, just I think almost a point of clarification pb contracts, while in negotiation, like all Union contracts.
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Rika Levin: are private because you have no leverage in negotiating the contract if everybody, including the people that are negotiating against you i'm.
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Rika Levin: get all the insights and all that it's in negotiation, once the negotiations are settled it all becomes public.
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Rika Levin: In all matters of negotiations are done by the staff in this village it's done by the village manager, on behalf of the Board and we then have input and we vote.
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Rika Levin: on it as our lawyers negotiate back and forth some contract negotiations take months or more often, they take could take a year, a couple years.
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Rika Levin: As you know, across all the different unions, and it is so Union so that I think, just as a point clarification Richard look like, he was wanting to say something I saw the body language so um i'll let you take it from here, Richard and.
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Richard Brady: Because.
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Rika Levin: You want to say something.
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Richard Brady: You got it in your response to the contract is now online and we had it as part of our study as well right.
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Rika Levin: And to the larger question of transparency again it's exactly like communications I don't know.
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Rika Levin: What success looks like and transparency, I only and I don't know what failure looks like right everybody has a different perception of transparency, but I will say this as a village.
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Rika Levin: I am really confident to deliver of transparency from all these meetings being recorded and available even to those folks who say gee I didn't know, there was a meeting well they're all been recorded.
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Rika Levin: I think, with the exception of a couple of them, or maybe only one actually and some of the subcommittee work where people.
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Rika Levin: A in the beginning forgot to ask for him to be recorded and think about it, that was not intentional that happened and then somebody said let's record it so everybody sees it, so it started getting recorded this this one included.
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Rika Levin: All of our meetings in the village or recorded work sessions and legislative, let me say that that is not the case in all municipalities.
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Rika Levin: We have a comment here about the chief and things that he said on some of the subcommittee meetings that's because.
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Rika Levin: it's transparent on the record from the minute they store to the minute they end.
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Rika Levin: And so we've made great efforts on to put as much, and as quickly and it's maybe not fast enough for some people, as much as quickly as you can on the most public of sites that we have we've also.
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Rika Levin: Created recordings of even some of the subcommittee and where people in the Community, and again I know the word Community means different things to different people is I have learned.
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Rika Levin: It could be all of the you know 26,000 plus people a community could be different segments of Community but we've had.
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Rika Levin: Different Members who have wanted to speak with the board and we've were available we make the time and we've met with them separately and to three hours in some cases.
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Rika Levin: We always try to get a couple of board members on there, we cannot have more than two because then it becomes a noticed public meeting, which is actually where we're having now.
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Rika Levin: So I hope that explains some of the transparency and I think in this plan, there will be regarding the police department, not just government in general.
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Rika Levin: More of that I want to take the opportunity to also remind people, because there is something that was said earlier about the Spanish language session.
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Rika Levin: That is going to be held on February 27 10am Saturday, when we think Members of Community or most available not just during the workday and so just if you have friends that you think would be interested neighbors yourself, please join us for that.
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Rika Levin: And I hope I answered that question and Jamie we have one more before we go to.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Yes, yes
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Jaimie Hoffman: We have two more, but I do know that there are questions that were asked in the Q amp a over 45 minutes ago right I want it to and the two people that do have their hands up just recently in this.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Just during Carlos this question did ask did raise their hand, so what is your choice that we go to do I.
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Rika Levin: want to go to the chat because it's the went on for a while ago so.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Okay, so i'll let you go into the chat box and when you're ready, I will then.
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Jaimie Hoffman: bring in mikey Garcia and Melanie Flores Okay, so we do that, and then let me know, thank you.
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Rika Levin: Right, so this one i'm going to I guess i'll read it to probably answer rob's question about the support of the chief.
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Rika Levin: As per previous meetings that have been posted on the village, which I just discussed that the recording their post, it seemed very clear, the chief was not.
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Rika Levin: In support of many recommendations being made, for example, mental health checking the recommendation about not appearing with ISIS he has.
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Rika Levin: handshake and agreement, he also does not that was encloses not agree with the recommendation about cpr be to name a few.
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Rika Levin: So I can't speak and I won't on behalf of other people, but to be clear on the police under the executive order is part of the required and today, that is involved in this, and I think that is.
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Rika Levin: Not only fair but totally appropriate much of the execution, as I said earlier, sustainable execution of any plan that involves the police department.
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Rika Levin: should have police by in That being said, um let's be very clear and I don't need to go to Richard because i'll tell you, because I sat enough of them.
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Rika Levin: The recommendations that were put for weren't all immediately unanimous by anybody people have different opinions about what things should look like they have different knowledge base they come at things differently.
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Rika Levin: that's what we formed a committee is best weekend that we're presents a wide apart of the many segments of our diverse community.
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Rika Levin: The five board members don't have, in my opinion, and I haven't even asked about each of the items of the plan.
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Rika Levin: i'm sure we're going to have some conversations that get emotional that have strong opinions that we may agree on, we may not have a unanimous vote, as we go item by item, we may vote in majority.
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Rika Levin: And not unanimously, people are entitled to have varying opinion.
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Rika Levin: The support has to be coming from it will come from the police and the board and other involved Community members, as we see it, we will vote on a plan and the truth is that once we do go through a plan that will be the plan.
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Rika Levin: People don't have to agree with every aspect I am 100% sure that there will not be 100% agreement by 100% of the involved parties about the plan that we pass that is a given.
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Rika Levin: The reality is that we will have a plan, and it will be implemented because we're the legislative body, and that is part of our responsibility is to make sure.
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Rika Levin: That we come up with a plan that is workable executable so I I understand the chief didn't agree with everything we all get that it's a it's normal, but now we're going to move on to voting on a plan that will be implemented.
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Rika Levin: So Richard you shake your head and agreements i'm not even gonna pivot to you because I think this is a discussion point that we've been through um.
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Rika Levin: Let me just before I lose something there were two anonymous attendees Okay, so that was one of them, that was an anonymous I don't know who asked that.
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Rika Levin: The second anonymous is about okay why can't we have a proper discussion as a community that seems our conversation bob's dialogue, many times you have all said, this is a Community process, but we just asking you questions seems like the only ones.
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Rika Levin: present to come up with answers Okay, I think that's a good one, so different way and I see trustee Lopez, would like to answer, sir.
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Omar Lopez: Oh yeah just like clarify prices i'm just marking them as answered live now that I want to answer them live.
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Rika Levin: i'm sorry.
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Omar Lopez: Well, fine i'm happy to answer this question, so this is a I have a point of conversation that.
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Omar Lopez: The Board has had in the past and as recently as yesterday as to how to conduct these kinds of conversation.
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Omar Lopez: there's a spectrum, there are conversations that are very prescriptive and those are.
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Omar Lopez: are more like when we have our legislative sessions, where members of the public, get a set amount of time to speak the Board is not respond and that's it and that's The purpose of that.
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Omar Lopez: is just to get public input, the benefit is that everyone gets equal amount of time towards equal in that way.
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Omar Lopez: That of course downside is that it's not a conversation, and so, if you're looking for a dialogue it doesn't allow for that.
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Omar Lopez: On the other end of the spectrum, there is a town hall or village hall style event where.
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Omar Lopez: members of the public and the board, I sometimes there's a topic sometimes there's not but there's a conversation about issues of the day.
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Omar Lopez: And I, that is a free flow exchange usually doesn't have too many rules, maybe everyone speaks once before anyone speaks twice something like that.
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Omar Lopez: But the purpose is to have a dialogue, then there's something like this in the middle, where we're having an opportunity for members of the public to ask questions, we will respond and and there is some back and forth, but it's somewhat limited.
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Omar Lopez: The benefit of this is that, because of the nature of this work already, we are an hour and 36 minutes, and we have many questions in the chat a couple of people raising their hands, there are a lot of people that want to get their thoughts in and.
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Omar Lopez: In exchange for not being here for six hours we try to limited so that we get as many questions as possible.
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Omar Lopez: But we also respond so that there's a little bit of dialogue and some clarification there not just receiving your feedback so each one has I think a pro and a con and we are moving to include more village hall town hall type of events.
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Omar Lopez: In the future, because there is a space for that, but at this point, the purpose of this call is very specific of trying to get public feedback but also create some space for the board to respond.
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Rika Levin: And it's it's Thank you kristy Lopez and there's two more after this so that people could see this one and, if anything, was forgotten and they meant to ask, they have different thoughts there.
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Rika Levin: There you are, this one, I think, is for you, Richard I don't really know how to do this concisely from sheila speller.
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Rika Levin: Please discuss the recommendation in quotes work with the village and police department, possibly nonprofit agencies to create a voluntary response registry, which would assist emergency communication responders and quote so this.
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Rika Levin: must be something that has been recommended was part of the recommendation, so if we can get your response to that, please Oh, please give an example, or two i'm reading these because the panelists can see this, but not everybody, I think.
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Richard Brady: i'm the one of your neighbors has implemented the program that we're talking about yonkers has a voluntary response registry and the volunteer for the answer what I think is one part of the question.
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Richard Brady: The volunteers don't respond so when it is it's information so that on a call for example on a domestic dispute or.
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Richard Brady: Especially associated with a resonance that the the emergency responders the police officers firefighters emergency medical technicians, we know that.
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Richard Brady: That somebody within the household had a mental health issue that the emergency communication Center had been made aware of.
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Richard Brady: So it doesn't get all and get some of them, but it addresses the problem which has happened in in many communities where.
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Richard Brady: police officers have responded not know that somebody had a mental health issue misinterpreted the actions toward them and with unfortunate consequences so it's it's information only and it's voluntary to provide that information to the registry.
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Robert M. Fritsche: Because.
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Robert M. Fritsche: We can I.
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Robert M. Fritsche: Think I did just to touch base on you know I agree 100% especially being a first responder back and I don't know if it's still going on, but we used to do this thing called a top Finder.
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Robert M. Fritsche: And it was the idea of the top Finder was to be at the front door and to be at the window of where the child is God forbid, if we had to get in there and stuff like that, and I believe you know, maybe some way of implementing some type of program of different labels.
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Robert M. Fritsche: At the door front, or something like that So even if it's not and again it's all voluntary and there is people, we do have noticed with people have oxygen in their houses.
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Robert M. Fritsche: And things like that, and it covers everything and it's something that we could maybe implement somehow have a bigger discussion about how that we could do that and offer it to the public.
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Robert M. Fritsche: In a very simple way of you know you can just register and come down and pick up some stickers and put them at your front door in case.
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Robert M. Fritsche: The call doesn't get communicated you know and they show up at the front door and they say hey we got a mental health problem here, or whatever, maybe or first responders we've got a kid in the House, you know okay let's look for that window where's that kid you know and.
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Robert M. Fritsche: You know that's just my little outtakes on it, I know forward leaning towards something like that I don't know.
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Okay.
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Rika Levin: Thank you, Bob i'm i'm going to go back, because this is not coming in, so Virginia Stillman there are a whole bunch of questions here, let me combine a few.
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Rika Levin: Related to ice.
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Rika Levin: How adobe D know the thing is people members from local fringed arm extremist groups okay so again ice is a federal.
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Rika Levin: agency that our police department has no knowledge about one way or the other, who they are what they are, they have.
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Rika Levin: asked us to inform them when they are coming into this community and i'm being polite when I say coming because they show up and whatever way they show up.
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Rika Levin: You could look up all of the rules of regulation for ice on Google when you want to do research about ice and their behavior and what they do in different communities at the end of the day, the calling, which I think is what all three of these things are about and the backup it's all.
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Rika Levin: it's really about what the chief had stated a number of times publicly and then the subcommittee that his belief in his apartments belief is that they're protecting the residents.
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Rika Levin: From is picking up the wrong person because they don't exactly take the time to figure out, they have some descriptions they're supposed to have subpoenas.
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Rika Levin: And they're there to protect the residence, which I think Bob arm I said before, in his description as well.
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Rika Levin: And so, who calls whom i'm to answer that question.
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Rika Levin: I think that the chief had described in a subcommittee that he is trying to impress upon the content ice as a New York state I scoop and Idaho I.
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Rika Levin: mean they're all over the federal agency it's not just a New York thing, and they have regions in New York, because we're such a big state
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Rika Levin: And he wants to be told when they come in here because he wants to protect the residents of ossining on the perception is that.
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Rika Levin: that's not what he means so that's not what he does, and I will let him speak on this more when we also as the chief not in this meeting, but you know we plan to ask him as well about.
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Rika Levin: in more detail about some of these recommendations, but I hope that answers a lot of who calls soon, because that's the explanation that was given.
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Rika Levin: There was another one from Virginia Stillman not about is a subject of demographics okay limit that's not i'm sorry, let me just get this back up here.
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Rika Levin: Okay anonymous attendee on the subject of demographics in the working committee currently is only one black man from the Community Committee, I understand that one black male members sick and may not be able to serve.
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Rika Levin: Are you going to bring more black men onto the working committee, so there are three different questions on there, let me address each of them.
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Rika Levin: So, first of all, there is more than one black man there's more than two black men on the committee, the committee's makeup is quite diverse of both so black women and black men and Hispanic and no.
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Rika Levin: I don't know how to qualify everybody, there are members of the faith an individual, and this is, I understand the question, but let me answer my own way.
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Rika Levin: When the committee's are chosen when all of our committees, so there are a lot of mayors appointments have many committees, we have about a dozen of them, then we have initiatives like this and the mayor's appointments are made on.
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Rika Levin: behalf of the trustees that when we make an appointment, when I speak, I speak as the mayor.
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Rika Levin: But Dana and I speak also as women, I mean i'm, not a single segment human being, I travel in many circles, I am a person who.
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Rika Levin: belongs to a faith i'm a woman i'm a woman of a certain age, you know all sorts i'm an immigrant all of those things, make up my value system and they make up my conversation when i'm a committee.
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Rika Levin: So a person who represents a group doesn't just represent that group, in our opinion, when we form committees, they also bring to the table their value system.
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Rika Levin: And a person on all of us do that and not only our own value system, but that of our family, so if we have children.
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Rika Levin: If we have stepchildren if we have any members of our family of the different segments of a Community all of that comes to the proverbial table that we sit on so just to be clear on this committee was made up of a quite diverse group of people in addition.
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Rika Levin: Both Omar, and I have sat at at least one meeting for quite a while, in a conversation with black men of our Community who've lived here very long time, one of the and i've said this publicly, because it was all recorded by the way.
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Rika Levin: One of the more interesting conversations I highly recommend that people watch it and there were other groups that sort of broke off and asked and said, can we talk, do we want to do that and.
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Rika Levin: We are live here right so every Member on this board lives in the village of ossining and we have a great interest.
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Rika Levin: in hearing what the Committee said so there was representation, the last piece, are you going to bring more black men onto men on to the working committee, the working committee has ended it's part of this.
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Rika Levin: initiative in the sense that, on the 27th the recommended plan was brought in from the board, and from this point on, from that point on, I guess grammatically correct.
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Rika Levin: The Board now engages with the public, based on the recommendation, but also based on more recommendations that might come to us from anywhere.
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Rika Levin: Because that's what public engagement is it isn't just working with groups, it is also working with individuals it's also working with people who may not like to be.
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Rika Levin: speaking to us, or in groups in public or people that simply didn't have time to be involved, now that they see what's going on, want to be involved, we need to hear from them to the to our our.
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Rika Levin: Public and constituents and they, too, I think, will want to come forth i'm going to repeat blt at village of US ning.org For those of you, and any of us that you feel more comfortable with it's our last name village of ossining.
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Rika Levin: at village of arcing.org my case, it could be the mayor evolution boston.org or 11 at village of arcing.org etc, etc, and so I think I answered.
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Jaimie Hoffman: i'm gonna interrupt you here, we do have some people that have been waiting in the chat okay outside of this that we need to bring over and then also.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Just while I have you for anyone here, that is in the attendee list if you didn't catch any of the emails that were said, you can find everything on the villages website there's a VOD page there's also the.
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Jaimie Hoffman: police reform page, so you can find everything there, so I don't know that we need to repeat the emails again, everything is there.
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Jaimie Hoffman: So great so you're all set there.
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Jaimie Hoffman: So I am going to bring in my toe Garcia now and then we're going to stick to the people that are going to be raising their hands and then i'll let.
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Jaimie Hoffman: trustee Lopez go back to the Q amp a as well okay so i'm Mike i'm bringing you over now Thank you so much, and also reminder to tell us your relationship to ossining Thank you.
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Rika Levin: hi micah.
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Mayte Garcia: Okay hi can everyone hear me.
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Mayte Garcia: Yes, oh perfect Okay, yes, I might think, I see, I am actually a working committee Member.
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Mayte Garcia: So i'm happy to be on this call, but kind of wish that me and my colleagues of the working committee were.
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Mayte Garcia: Also visible to the call so that the Community can ask us questions as well, I feel like Richard has answered many questions but um it would have.
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Mayte Garcia: In my, in my view, I think it would be more valuable for the Community to hear what our recommendations are as Community Members as well, and so.
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Mayte Garcia: I agree with the comment or you know kind of want to add on to the comment that was put into icing I think someone was anonymous and Omar answered.
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Mayte Garcia: You know we're really not allowing for dialogue if we're answering just Q and a's there may be should be a more active chat i'm not sure if this has to do with limitations of being a webinar type zoom or what of the that limitation is but.
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Mayte Garcia: You know all conversations are valuable and I think a lot of people have really great comments and there have been many times, where i'm looking at the chat or the Q amp a piece and.
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Mayte Garcia: You know I want to agree with people and what they're saying and we're not able to do that, and so it feels like.
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Mayte Garcia: You know, some people give a recommendation, and then you know we kind of move on from them and they might feel like they're never going to be heard, or whatever they're doing is not.
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Mayte Garcia: or whatever they're saying is not going to be addressed in the future, which is not the case right, I think that right now.
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Mayte Garcia: Everyone is taking notes and we're going to put what the Community saying into the recommendations which is, which is great, but it should, in my opinion, be more of a dialogue.
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Mayte Garcia: And to avoid what Omar said, of having a six hour zoom right where everyone is just like having all these opinions, because you know they're all valid, I think you know breaking it up into.
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Mayte Garcia: sections or topics would be valuable that way, everyone can kind of get their topics on one thing that zoom ends and then you know the next day, we can talk about something else and and.
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Mayte Garcia: You know it doesn't I don't know how special meetings or what what it, how it works with the village, but if if the trustees.
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Mayte Garcia: don't want to be there, I don't know if that's.
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Mayte Garcia: Necessary I mean and Community still I feel like they still need a place or or somewhere where they can contribute and really have open and honest conversations.
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Mayte Garcia: about their comments on the draft or just recommendations that they have for.
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Mayte Garcia: The reform and and then, when it comes to ice and the comments for ice I feel like it's not only that we need to get.
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Mayte Garcia: The chief to I forget what what wording to use Rico but um I think you know, there are many questions that the chief needs to answer in terms of what can he actually do, or what can the police actually do when they arrived.
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Mayte Garcia: or when ice is around right if they're really just there to observe and they can't really do anything, however them just being there is harming.
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Mayte Garcia: The Community because it harms how everyone's looking at them, is it really valuable for them to be there that's one question and then second who is who is.
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Mayte Garcia: Who is it more valuable to be there, maybe we need a crisis intervention team that can be observing.
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Mayte Garcia: arm and that way we're not putting the police image at harm we're no longer i'm saying that the police is collaborating with ice and we have a crisis intervention team, who is there in the best interest of the Community Member, and we can adopt.
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Mayte Garcia: different strategies that our neighboring communities have such as crow in police department when they find out that ISIS coming to town because usually it seems like ice does notify.
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Mayte Garcia: The police departments, because police have teams and from other cities to have said, you know we don't like it when you guys just come in and don't, let us know.
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Mayte Garcia: What what the chief of police and the police officer can do, and they have the right to do is let the Community know.
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Mayte Garcia: crow and police department will put on Facebook hey ISIS coming to town and so that seems more of a Community approach, where now.
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Mayte Garcia: As a resident or as a Community Member I feel more comfortable, because I know that the police has my back and so Those are just a few comments, and you know, maybe we can act on them, because I think we still have a little bit more time on to to get the Community involved.
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Rika Levin: Okay, thank you Mike I think I hear what you're saying about involved with that actually i'm having this come up as an issue is something that we are going to look at that actually is the entire purpose here.
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Rika Levin: And I think that we've heard loud and clear that this is a major issue, which is why also Richard did put it as one of the main issues when he synthesizes much as he could about dialogue um we're going to keep working on that it's this issue it's it's a it's a issues that affect.
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Rika Levin: Everyone so we're hearing you loud and clear, and we will regroup and think about it and figure out what we can do.
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Rika Levin: I hope that helps and I know how hard you've been working on this, and some of the information that you've gotten as well, I am my think there's another person Jamie.
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Jaimie Hoffman: There are no more people that have raised their hand, I also want to bring attention to, we are half an hour over our 90 minutes, so if you want to.
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Jaimie Hoffman: row just which i'm assuming it's real, but do we wanted to take this last comment from Ross and he just raised his hand and then not take any more hands raised and just address what's in the Q amp a and let anyone email us from here forward, or do we want to continue the meeting forward.
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Rika Levin: Well let's take rose, I want to finish the chat and then i'll give i'll give everybody a couple of minutes, so you know my belief in.
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Rika Levin: The Board, being a team so.
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Jaimie Hoffman: No property.
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Rika Levin: give it a minute or two and I appreciate the staff also staying and Stewart but lets you know it's our first one too so we're also going to take some of the learnings bring it to the next one um.
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Jaimie Hoffman: So let's see.
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Rika Levin: Where we go with this okay.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Thank you there.
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Rika Levin: hello, are you.
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Jaimie Hoffman: There you are a reminder, give us your relationship to us, and we know who you are, but for the.
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Rika Levin: rest of.
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Jaimie Hoffman: The group all right, thank you.
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ro: Thank you.
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ro: Thank you Jamie my name is rodolfo Moran real Moran and I am a village residents i'm also a member of the working committee.
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ro: And thank you for your time, and thank you for for your comments on this um I, I have to be.
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ro: 100% frank with you that you know this, this process, like, I think it has been for every single village and every single municipality that has a local police department.
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ro: has been has been a big undertaking right and it's been a little difficult to do as you get lots of different stakeholders involved a lot of different opinions involved, etc, etc.
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ro: One thing that I would like to clarify I think it's so important is, you know as the working committee, we made a recommendations.
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ro: We we set our piece, but we're still learning more and because this was such an expedited process etc we're still learning more from the Community, and a lot of people are things that that people really feel should be in this plan so.
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ro: I know earlier it sounded may your 11 like you said okay yeah you know that they're working committees done now now it's us.
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ro: But, but the working committee still wants to be involved and I think that that's something really important because, as we.
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ro: have done this we've established some relationships with Community Members who feel like they can share with us and feel that they can let us know, so we want to be able to add edit etc, as we hear ideas into this plan so i'd like to know a little bit more from the cbot as to what.
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ro: What your thoughts are in this on how this can be.
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ro: done and and executed we're we're still able to assist and not step on toes etc, etc.
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Omar Lopez: If I can chime in to start and then.
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sure.
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Omar Lopez: Others add on to it so.
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Omar Lopez: This will be an in elegant metaphor, I will name out front, but nevertheless I think one that could work if you're familiar with a way that finances work.
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Omar Lopez: organizations or individuals is usually actually an organizational thing had to close their books, at a certain date for some is December 31 for some it's a June 30, to say the VI fiscal year.
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Omar Lopez: 2021 closes on June 30 and you close your books, then that doesn't mean that you stop spending money as an organization it just means that the next set of books opens 2122 on July 1.
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Omar Lopez: Similarly, we have a very prescribed a specific deadline of April first and that's when we have to close the books on this one plan, but that is opens the books till the next chapter of this work and I.
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Omar Lopez: am eager to hear the recommendations from the working committee from members of the community who have come forward as individuals or as groups and institutions, I.
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Omar Lopez: To not only improve our police department, but any part of our village, we are always eager to hear those recommendations and wanting to implement them.
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Omar Lopez: This plan is a response to a very specific request from the governor.
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Omar Lopez: And we are holding ourselves accountable to that timeline so there has to be a point at which we close the books.
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Omar Lopez: As such, but that doesn't mean that the word doesn't keep going so I encourage you to please continue getting together, giving us your recommendations.
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Omar Lopez: Keeping the the word going, despite the fact that there is a point where we're going to have to say no more comments for this plan let's keep the word going after this.
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ro: Are you oh I don't think that was exactly my question, though.
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ro: And I completely understand that, but I feel that, between now and let's say if it's due April 1 let's say march 24 when you know because matrix has to put all this together and make sure it's this beautiful document, but between that timeline is I think when it's important to have.
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ro: This committee that's been out and involved in talking to people really involved, you know, we know that there's a timeline of.
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ro: of April 1 but then you know, I also want to make sure that we don't have other random timelines and created that are gonna.
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ro: Give us the inability to give other people and ability to share things that are really important because, as we've learned today a lot of the opinions that we've heard today, a lot of the things that we've heard today.
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ro: are not exactly a lot of those things that we may have heard when the plan came out just because new knowledge has come to light, etc, etc, and that's really important to note as well.
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Omar Lopez: got it Okay, so I think one one piece that I would add, in terms of timing, so this is the public comment period, now that we have in.
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Omar Lopez: Through February, but we're going to be taking comments from certainly members of the public, during this forum but anything else that comes up, and so you emailed the board, for example, about a specific question that you had.
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Omar Lopez: Was this considered, can I get a copy of this document, etc, etc, certainly that can can continue, and all that will be taken into consideration and put into.
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Omar Lopez: The plan by matrix I think one of the questions that was asked in the chat recently was from the board of education Member Diana lemon.
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Omar Lopez: I asked a few questions here at the end, but one one of the general themes is is the board going to have communication with the board of education as to how these.
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Omar Lopez: Recommendations impact the Youth in our Community to me that gets to one of the.
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Omar Lopez: answers that we gave earlier of how feasible, are all of these different recommendations, what are the lenses that we're looking at them through So this is the.
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Omar Lopez: Board of education lens is one that at this point, actually has not come up, specifically in terms of how we're evaluating this plan, a great recommendation from trustee lemon and.
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Omar Lopez: A few other questions as well, but that's the kind of thing row that we will, we need to have a date by which we say.
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Omar Lopez: These are the recommendations now let's evaluate feasibility and we need time to do that and then have a final plan and then submit right.
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Omar Lopez: So I that's why we're establishing some sort of date that we're saying this is, when all feedback needs to come in by but we're eager to have recommendations keep rolling it.
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ro: Thank you.
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Rika Levin: This is to be clear, one of the big topics that the board individually and, as a group has been discussing it is a challenge for all of our initiatives, whether it's housing, that we are.
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Rika Levin: In the process of going through and a whole bunch of other things, this is a top priority, but.
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Rika Levin: it's the scope, the depth and the breadth of how one manager, is something that has a timeline not established by us, by the way, established outside of our realm um.
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Rika Levin: And I want to make it clear that I think the metaphor of a book whether it's in chapters and that it one job closes another one opens is very appropriate we never thought that this was something that.
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Rika Levin: In of itself comes it's it's to an end it's iterative, but we do have to hit some marks in order for the board as well to have an opportunity.
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Rika Levin: In a public forum to discuss amongst ourselves, and to vote on what we want to move forward what we might want to put on a longer horizon and what we may want to.
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Rika Levin: agree that we do not put forward, and we need also the time is a group to have that conversation because i'm going to tell you we're not going to all agree on everything.
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Rika Levin: And we may need information that we need to gather and we've been doing that slightly on a parallel path, but that's.
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Rika Levin: Part of the process as well, and you need the process in order to have closure and completion on one chapter in order to then move on to the next, and I think that trustee Lopez, it said it.
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Rika Levin: For all of us i'm not seeing anybody else looking at at this and I appreciate the involvement that the committee has.
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Rika Levin: Honestly they're probably people that aren't on the committee that would like to step up and be on a.
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Rika Levin: Committee and say now it's our turn like i'd like to be on the committee and how many people you're going to have on the next one, these are all things that have come to our attention, we will have more things come to our attention.
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Rika Levin: And those things we're going to have to synthesize and go through a process publicly it says, this is what we're what we're doing next, and I appreciate that people are.
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Rika Levin: enthusiastic about this, we don't get enthusiasm on every committee, we have, so we are not only eager to hear but we're also excited that people.
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Rika Levin: want to have a say in this and want to be helpful and all of this, so thank you for that i'm trying to read as to see what else is is on here that so Omar, I think you answered.
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Rika Levin: Diana lemons question if i'm not mistaken, as well.
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Rika Levin: Trying to see if there's anything on here, that is not duplicative of what's already been so we're not repeating ourselves, since this is.
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Rika Levin: recorded people can look at it, as well, what am I missing somebody just started saying something.
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Rika Levin: Are you still on did were you saying something or.
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ro: I think you guys didn't unmute me yeah.
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Rika Levin: Okay that's Okay, I just wanted to know if.
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Rika Levin: If you were saying something there.
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Jaimie Hoffman: sorry about that.
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Jaimie Hoffman: I took him out that's okay
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Rika Levin: No that's fine it's I just didn't know if.
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Rika Levin: There was another comment being made anybody else.
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Rika Levin: Yes, I know it's 1204 were over two hours into this, we do try to be respectful of people's time will, though it's an engaging conversation, so I think that works.
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Omar Lopez: Let me make a recommendation, please.
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Omar Lopez: So, because we have a number of questions that more than likely will get time to.
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Omar Lopez: answer, I want to name that we're going to memorialize all of the questions in the chat going to be in the transcript on that's going to follow this.
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Omar Lopez: Meeting, just like all the questions answered, I asked in during the meeting, so if your question was not answered directly during the meeting, it will be tracked in the future.
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Rika Levin: Okay.
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Rika Levin: Thank you, and we will put that on and we'll start collecting some common questions i'd like to.
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Rika Levin: bring this particular engagement.
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Rika Levin: to an end by thanking all that have come at some points there were.
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Rika Levin: You know, over 50 people and people have come on off, which means is probably more than 50 people they're seeing this I encourage you to share this with friends families colleagues residents, etc.
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Rika Levin: That will allow us to have more input on for members of our Community, I want to thank everybody that's on the call the entire board on was here village manager dettori which would be for matrix.
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Rika Levin: Stewart kahan also attorney because this is, there is a pattern and a process here everybody on the working committee.
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Rika Levin: There were about 18 people on the committee, so I want and mostly made up of of residence and then.
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Rika Levin: Two or three people from staff and a couple of a mayor interesting, so I want to thank everybody for your time, this is not an end you've got the emails everything's on the website right to us copy people we are.
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Rika Levin: In some ways excited and other ways i'm really I think looking at this issue is being a century, plus issue of how police and communities interact with one another.
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Rika Levin: How the police, protect and serve a Community keep it safe in the form of community policing and how a village of our size fits into the overall picture, on behalf of our residents.
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Rika Levin: i'm not sure that.
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Rika Levin: The few months that we've looked at it is going to herself a century, plus problem in the United States and i'm sure in other countries, but nobody elected me to be involved in other countries issues.
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Rika Levin: and specific to the village, so I found this amazingly helpful.
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Rika Levin: have taken pages of notes even off sad and most of these meetings I appreciate matrix is working doing what's difficult, which is trying to bring lots and lots and lots of conversations into scope in a way that's digestible for everybody and.
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Rika Levin: The people who have recently joined this initiative and are giving us new ideas and new things to think about and I do hope that everybody got.
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Rika Levin: A lot out of this or what they expected and that it may have met your needs and that's it first for today i'm going to just do the gallery, I feel like i'm on you know the Brady bunch of something the gallery here about if anybody has last comments or.
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Rika Levin: Close this meeting and wait to hear from everyone involved a nice your hand is up.
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Dana White: I just like to thank everybody for a great conversation I know we couldn't get to everything, but we will.
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Dana White: And I still have questions as well, and some things that haven't come up i'd like to talk about at some point.
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Dana White: So anyway i'm i'm honored to be part of this process, I just hope I can rise to the occasion and do the work that's required, I think I can.
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Dana White: I think we all can and i've been looking actually at some of the reports that have come out from other communities just for context.
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Dana White: And some of them are very I mean the Community very different communities, demographically population lives, so their reports are very different.
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Dana White: And, in some ways, very simple and and uncomplicated i'm like wow, but we are you know we are we have complex issues to work through and i'm just glad that we can do it through to this conversation so i'm looking forward to the next ones.
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Rika Levin: Thank you, anyone else.
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Manuel R. Quezada: If I may mayor um so I definitely want to thank everyone on on dumb everyone that actually participate in these and everyone in working committed that has put a lot of time in this and.
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Manuel R. Quezada: We want to take it to the next level, I just want to say a couple things in here i'm.
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Manuel R. Quezada: And i'm sure this was said before and working committed, one of the things that you know I can emphasize on this because i've been in a process and i've been involved in village government for a few years now is that.
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Manuel R. Quezada: Not to put the amount of work that has been done, and not to minimize the stuff that we need to look, because I think is essential Christ improve ourselves every single day.
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Manuel R. Quezada: Not to me, I tried to do that, every day, my personal my personal life and professional life, and I think we can all do that in this is one item that we want to improve our police department sure what that means.
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Manuel R. Quezada: What is interesting, though, is that a lot of the implementations or a lot of the recommendations or some of the ideas that, in combination that i've been seeing it all municipalities.
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Manuel R. Quezada: Our police department already has done it in years back body cameras civilian complaint review boards.
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Manuel R. Quezada: Community engagements in different levels, I was talking to so many which from westchester county yesterday and now.
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Manuel R. Quezada: we're just going over some of the stuff are because I just working relationships with them, and he said.
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Manuel R. Quezada: In a mention that I was going to be a part of this call this morning and I said yeah we got, we have to do this we're going to do this we've gone through you know some of the stuff he's like get.
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Manuel R. Quezada: In, then I was going over the list of the stuff that we already have done and he's like well you mean you already have a civilian complaint review board on places like.
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Manuel R. Quezada: He thought that we are putting that in place now, I said no we've been having this version of that I said definitely this stuff that we need to improve and part of the recommendations are that.
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Manuel R. Quezada: But a lot of people in other communities don't have what we have again so we want to take what we already have and improve those things, so I wanted to take a time to thank everyone that was involved in our process.
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Manuel R. Quezada: And I want to thank the Community for being a moment this and i'm here to put again there's a balance, some of the questions were talking about you know what is the budget.
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Manuel R. Quezada: You know what is this going to cause, do we need to hire more police officers or the question is where we need to reduce the amount of police officer, so we have.
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Manuel R. Quezada: So at this all these things that we that we need to put in perspective and see what that looks like so.
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Manuel R. Quezada: Some of the questions we may not be able to answer today or tomorrow or next week because we may not have those answers right now.
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Manuel R. Quezada: So just keep that in mind that this is a working process, we do have a you know I like the analysis that my colleague Mr Lopez said, you know closing the books, you know um.
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Manuel R. Quezada: But that doesn't mean that the work is done at that time you know definitely the next shot that comes in, and what does that look like and we want the Community to be involved.
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Manuel R. Quezada: and any level, not just for this, we want the Community to get involved and every single aspect of those government does and what does that look like sure we have this we have this committee now we have.
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Manuel R. Quezada: The comprehensive plan common up we've been having discussions about the downtown parking you know all these initiatives that we are working now, and those are to better our Community so that's what i'm what i'm asking is please stay humble.
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Manuel R. Quezada: Stay involved as an individual stables group stable as a as a voice for our community that you feel that is not being heard just you know beauty.
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Manuel R. Quezada: Of gasoline.org you can email it to all of us for like it was mentioned before, to individual i'm just again involvement in the Community is to me is greatly appreciate that, so thank you.
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Rika Levin: Thank you trusty Cassandra any buddy else before we.
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Rika Levin: Leave the meeting i'm sorry go ahead.
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Robert M. Fritsche: Just just i'm sorry just real quick again, thank you for everybody that took the time today to get involved.
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Robert M. Fritsche: i'm in this position because I want to serve my community, and this is a very important thing for us and we are here and I echo my colleagues comments i'm not going to repeat things but.
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Robert M. Fritsche: Please believe i'm in this position to serve you guys and that's why i'm here and we're going to put our best foot forward and we're going to take everything and all our information and.
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Robert M. Fritsche: put together a good plan so The last thing I like to say is i'd like to thank Jamie Hoffman for orchestrating our Hollywood squares today and I will let it go with that, thank you very much.
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Rika Levin: Hollywood squares I forgot that one.
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Jaimie Hoffman: Or the Brady bunch there's only nine on the screen so.
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Rika Levin: yeah I know that's right i'm great it's almost got his mirror on so he may not want to.
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Rika Levin: Speak, although I think that he and I have spoken quite a bit on behalf of the board, today I thank everyone for participating and we will hopefully see many of you, and more of you on the next one Thank you so much, and have a good rest of the weekend.
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Rika Levin: bye bye.