Public Feedback Meetings With the Community: Focus on African American Community

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Matrix Presentation 2.20.2021

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Rika Levin: Good morning, everyone in ossining and welcome to our second of a three part sessions on public engagement specific to police reform based on executive order.

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Rika Levin: That came to us in mid summer I want to welcome everybody from the Community is here next week will be the third session, which is going to be in Spanish.

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Rika Levin: today's session is focused on African American Community everyone is welcome to speak, I wanted to just make some introduction, we have Richard Brady and company from matrix consulting who was hired to help us.

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Rika Levin: put together the focus groups and interviews that went on, and a series of meetings and research and a survey and count and then analyze the survey really in the form of project management and was chosen to help us.

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Rika Levin: on behalf of the board of trustees we have our trustees I think four of the five trustees around or corporation counsel is on and some staff members were kind enough to also help us.

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Rika Levin: In the process of this public engagement, I just wanted to go through a couple of things you're going to see a short presentation by matrix that was developed by a working group, a Co working committee of 18.

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Rika Levin: Members of our Community quite diverse group of people with lots of different experiences.

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Rika Levin: And representing lots of different organizations, we also had on that committee Omar Lopez or trustee, who is the longest standing member from the board, because this.

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Rika Levin: Particular working committee had the mayor on it, as well as a trustee and Omar was the trustee now is mayor beginning on the first of the year, I took over in their role so there's always been to two of us on the working with the working committee.

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Rika Levin: After the presentation we're going to turn it over.

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Rika Levin: To trustee Lopez, as our longest standing Member of this committee, but I don't want to devalue the work of the rest of the board.

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Rika Levin: at many, many times in through many, many of our own meetings we have been updated either individually by members of the working committee by matrix.

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Rika Levin: And by each other about what is happening with police reform we've gotten feedback and we will continue to get more feedback on the February 24.

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Rika Levin: For the police chief who's also on this committee, the pva will also like to share some of their thoughts, now that a draft plan has been submitted the processes that at the end of the draft plan.

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Rika Levin: After we get input from Community Members, we will then look through all of the comments from both Community Members like today's engagement, as well as on the working committee.

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Rika Levin: We will look at all those recommendations and then we will put together a final copy that will be signed off and voted on by the board and signed off.

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Rika Levin: And that will be sent to the governor's office, along with some additional recommendation, which we feel I don't know if other communities are doing this.

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Rika Levin: Every municipality is different, but we have also committed to putting an agenda to some of our fellow.

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Rika Levin: Elected in County and state and federal with recommendation made by the working committee and by some members of the public about some improvements they feel should be made.

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Rika Levin: To make policing better in our Community and asking but i'm really is out of the purview of local.

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Rika Levin: Elected such as ourselves, everyone will get a chance to speak this is scheduled for 90 minutes but we've seen it in the past that.

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Rika Levin: We will go longer if we have to the goal here is that this is a listening session every single person wants to speak should raise their hand you'll be brought on to.

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Rika Levin: talk to us and share with us your experiences with the police your recommendation for better policing any commentary as welcome the only rule is that while there's no limit.

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Rika Levin: When you speak, there will be others that want to speak there'll be called on.

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Rika Levin: We will go through the whole list of everybody that wants to speak before we start again with people who want to speak a second or third time.

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Rika Levin: etc, etc, because the goal here is to here, is why the scope of our community as possible, I am going to look for one minute to see if anybody, and on the panelists tell me that I forgot to say something before I am looking i'm stalling for a minute, but i'm going to turn it to Richard.

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Manuel R. Quezada: i'm sorry mayor if I managed to get a text message for MMA Bob frenchie so unfortunately not able to join us today.

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Manuel R. Quezada: Okay, I guess the power um.

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Manuel R. Quezada: yeah he have he doesn't have any power right now.

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Rika Levin: yeah I didn't have power to like I think eight minutes before I got on today, so I lost a lot of how this morning okay so he's unable to do it, thank you for letting us know trustee Casado Richard Brady I think and matrix I think you are on.

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Richard Brady: Thank you very much i'm Richard Brady I am the President admissions consultant group, and I was the project manager on.

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Richard Brady: This assignment and I work closely with the working committee and the public, so these various input sessions throughout the process i'm going to share my screen, we have put together a brief PowerPoint which isn't going to eat too much into the time of the.

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Richard Brady: input that we hope to get from the Community, but we thought it would be good to.

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Richard Brady: frame the discussion so as the mayor mentioned this whole process began last year in the wake of the George floyd Brown and Taylor other killings that happened.

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Richard Brady: In police incidents and the governor's office issued executive order two or three which ordered every local community in the state to develop a plan to.

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Richard Brady: Look at address and reform policing and every community throughout the state so ossining began this process in the summer time last summer late summer and.

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Richard Brady: created a work in committee, which was comprised of local residents, which met several times before we were hired and, of course, met with us several times.

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Richard Brady: After we were hired to develop suggested recommendations that ended up being within the draft report, which is now public in is the basis for these review meetings that we're having as part of this process.

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Richard Brady: A lot of things happen that involve the working committee and the public, because the breadth of the.

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Richard Brady: Reform initiatives were so broad We broke the working committee down into four subcommittees that were created to increase the focus on specific reform areas governance and oversight policies and procedures operational kinds of issues hiring and training.

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Richard Brady: Throughout this process, we had a number of Community listening sessions we had one in one in interviews with I think over 40.

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Richard Brady: People within the Community, we had six Community meetings some general ones and some focused ones, and we also had an online survey, which had between eight and 900 responses in fact they're still coming in.

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Richard Brady: So we developed the draft report with our working committee and in these public meetings, the village board is receiving input.

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Richard Brady: So that we can finalize the report and, eventually, they can submit the recommendations that they wish to implement to the state as part of its two or three reporting process and i'll talk a little bit more about that at the end of my presentation.

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Richard Brady: So what i'd like to do is talk at a high level way about the recommendation to suggested recommendations that came out of the processes as an all of them.

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Richard Brady: But I consider them many of the major ones, and some of the accompanying once it came about as as part of that the first area is importantly in the governance and oversight area and that's important because it frames everything else it frames.

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Richard Brady: everything associated with oversight and accountability, but also policies, the operations of the department, etc.

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Richard Brady: we've recommended that first of all in the oversight area that the representation of CP crb be changed it's extraordinarily unusual to have police representation on a citizen police.

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Richard Brady: complaint review board and.

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Richard Brady: Its challenges their ability to be independent and objective so we've recommended that Board of five civilians was one alternate.

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Richard Brady: be the CP crb in the future and entirely with civilian non police representatives on the board, they should consider hiring an outside investigator.

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Richard Brady: on their own, or in conjunction with other communities in westchester county to review.

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Richard Brady: complaint cases, so that they have an independent basis upon which to review complaints against the police department police officers specifically.

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Richard Brady: on the government side we've recommended the creation of a new board and it's recognizing that the village board.

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Richard Brady: Has as their responsibilities police commissioner's many, many, many things that are their responsibility and this is important enough to provide special focus, and this is something that is increasingly being considered throughout the State of New York and across the country.

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Richard Brady: So we've recommended something, it will take.

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Richard Brady: different kind of process after this is done, that would change the village Charter and the westchester county police act to create a new police Board of Commissioner that provides more general oversight of please policies and operations and that board make regular reports.

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Richard Brady: To the public to the village board and at the police department work with the Commission to develop those metrics and reporting mechanism and.

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Richard Brady: The oversight and governance bleeds over into the policies in the through transparency.

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Richard Brady: And we, the the working committee has made a number of suggested recommendation to increase transparency, including making all the policies.

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Richard Brady: Online so that the public can review them and that there'd be a public process for periodically revealing and changing them as necessary, but other transparency.

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Richard Brady: Changes are recommended in a report such as making it easier for people to contact, not just the chief but other senior officers within the police department.

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Richard Brady: There are a number of recommendations to address bias in policies, and this is important because many policies are old and it needs to be looked at from this lens.

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Richard Brady: There are a couple of recommendations regarding ice and one is the policy in a second one is a communication of the policy on the policy.

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Richard Brady: There are there's the perception of cooperation between the police department and in ice and.

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Richard Brady: We have recommended within a report that the department modifies general orders, so that the police department won't respond unless they're called at that location and should not be visible unless there is substantial risk that they could be called on.

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Richard Brady: An internal operations we've been working committee and the subcommittee we work with specifically on this has recommended the that the village and the department and the region.

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Richard Brady: look more carefully at alternative response police officers, even if they receive special training and they should receive more of that.

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Richard Brady: are often equipped to handle mental House calls or calls involving homelessness and and the special needs associated with that substance abuse, etc, and many of those three things are common in a single call.

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Richard Brady: And so, a growing area and New York and across the country and already exist to some limited extent in westchester county is developing an alternative response unit that would.

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Richard Brady: provide assistance assistance on the response, but would also be involved in case management with individual so that they're focused into.

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Richard Brady: into programs and services in the county.

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Richard Brady: This is something to be very difficult for the village to do on its own, just because of its size and the cost of such a thing.

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Richard Brady: So we've recommended that they look at it more regionally, either in conjunction with West Chester county or with your immediate neighbors.

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Richard Brady: Regardless of whether that can be implemented the officers should receive what's called CIT training crisis intervention training, which is a 40 hour.

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Richard Brady: Training at us as a pilot or as a starter should be at least one person per shift train in that, but with an ultimate goal of training everybody within the police department at that time important level.

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Richard Brady: Some communities and state, including some men and your region have created a voluntary response register yonkers did this.

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Richard Brady: in which the police department and dispatch as a first effort are pre notified of what could be a risky situation within a household such as a special needs are mentally challenged individual who.

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Richard Brady: Could so it would be registered, so that they would know what they were going into and know how to respond with that in mind, rather than.

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Richard Brady: Without that knowledge and, in many cases, around a country, this has resulted in unfortunate deaths and injuries to to individuals.

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Richard Brady: There are a number of things that came out of our committee relating to improving existing community policing efforts.

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Richard Brady: That involve going beyond the chief who represents the department very well in Community events.

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Richard Brady: To include most police officers having assignments as liaisons with special community groups, having different kinds of presence within ossining schools and in different kinds of events throughout the Community as well and different kinds of roles.

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Richard Brady: The second set of recommendations relating to is related to whatever that new policy is there needs to be a public awareness campaign in both English and Spanish to explain what that role is because there's a lot of uncertainty, a lot of.

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Richard Brady: unknown about what the police department's role is, and this needs to be clarified in a public and transparent way.

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Richard Brady: Officers need support to this is a challenging business and very one of the most stressful occupations in the world and police officers need support through a mental health Program.

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Richard Brady: And many communities have adopted.

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Richard Brady: Special counseling options, some of them are and periodic.

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Richard Brady: Times, others are after specific incidents other upon request, tell a therapy is now an option given technology name, now that provides the opportunity for.

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Richard Brady: an officer to seek help without the going to a special room or making an appointment somewhere that's more visible and that's been helpful.

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Richard Brady: For officers who need to seek help many departments have also implemented a formal early intervention program so that they're using information associated with complaints with leaves and absences and things like that to intervene with a counseling effort.

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Richard Brady: On hiring and training, there are some recommendations suggested recommendations within a report to increase diversity in hiring and promotions.

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Richard Brady: but also to make it more local and to start early and also in high school to have a program to introduce high school students to policing in the police department and.

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Richard Brady: Specifically, and so that we've got a department that is more representative of the Community in the future and actually has a stake in the Community.

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Richard Brady: We have recommended a multi year training program over a five year period that includes more emphasis on training relating to bias and racism de escalation techniques.

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Richard Brady: Procedural justice cultural competency and how to handle protest, as well as the crisis intervention training that I mentioned before.

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Richard Brady: So that, in a nutshell, I think we had 32 groups of recommendations in the draft report and that's about three quarters of them there.

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Richard Brady: The report has been public for several weeks now, and so, hopefully, the people around this review.

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Richard Brady: Call have had a chance to take a look at and we'll get your input now so we've had one meeting in the past we've got this meeting today we've got one in Spanish.

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Richard Brady: Next weekend and that plus other forms of communication, we received emails we've received voicemails at our office and all of these things will be used to.

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Richard Brady: finalize the report and we will submit that to the village board in early March, they will review it throughout March and then submit their recommended Action Plan to the state by April 1 so that's the process or principal recommendations and where the process goes from here.

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Richard Brady: Omar, do you have anything to add to that or transition to the input.

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Omar Lopez: Thank you, Richard good morning everyone and good morning to everyone in the Community joining us, we have a lot of folks nearly 60.

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Omar Lopez: People that, in addition to the panelists that we have so really happy to see this level of engagement, I think there are two points that would make in addition to what you said, Richard number one in terms of contacts.

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Omar Lopez: This was a presentation, then you and matrix made to the board at the end of January that recaps the work that had been done from the beginning of this engagement up to then.

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Omar Lopez: we've been receiving a lot of feedback and the second point is that feedback from the point when this presentation was made it into January through not all February in the very beginning of March.

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Omar Lopez: we're taking all of that feedback into consideration as we're working on the final version of this draft recommendation so.

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Omar Lopez: Everything that is recommended today everything that was recommended at the first.

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Omar Lopez: Public engagement session and that will be next week that everything that has come in through email and phone calls conversations with us we're all compiling that information and and taking all of it into account when revising the existing draft from the end of January.

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Omar Lopez: So with that Jamie if you can please start i'm going I just open it up now for folks to raise their hand if you go to.

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Omar Lopez: People have different devices, and so it might may look a little bit different depending on kind of where you are but.

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Omar Lopez: A lot of times in the participant list or sometimes I below on the very bottom of the taskbar there's an option for you to raise your hand raise your hand is going to be how.

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Omar Lopez: We have folks participate today.

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Omar Lopez: There are a few ways for you to participate, you can raise your hand and use your voice in order to ask a question, you can also write a question into the Q amp a.

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Omar Lopez: The way that we are going to be prioritizing questions is first folks that are raising their hand to ask their question and then.

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Omar Lopez: we're going to be periodically going into questions in the Q amp a and we're going to be doing that for about 90 minutes, like the mayor said, extending longer if there is more engagement to be had after that, so we it looks like we don't have any hands raised yet so he's going to.

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Jaimie Hoffman: give it a mentor you do, do we mind if Richard stops is sharing his screen, so that our faces are all there.

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Jaimie Hoffman: Thank you, thank you.

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Jaimie Hoffman: Thank Thank you Richard.

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Omar Lopez: Jamie they do Richard.

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Jaimie Hoffman: So 15 if you'd like to go first before someone raises their hands or any questions in the Q amp a.

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Dana White: rob Abbot of the ossining naacp an ass in their response to executive order two or three some jurisdictions in New York, have created a mechanism for Community input into police hiring and promotion decisions were such mechanisms considered by the working group.

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Omar Lopez: I think why Dana Thank you rob so i'm going to hand it to Richard.

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Richard Brady: Okay yeah Thank you Omar i'm.

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Richard Brady: not specifically all promotion so certainly we we looked at a process with a committee of increasing Community input on hiring and also for the selection of police chiefs, but not all promotional.

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Richard Brady: opportunities but that's certainly that something that we can certainly add because the the model is there in the other suggested recommendations so that's a good point, thank you.

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Omar Lopez: Thank you Dana.

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Dana White: Diana lemon has a suggestion, she comments when promoting this forum, please post the hyperlink it makes it that much easier for the Community to participate.

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Omar Lopez: good suggestion, thank you.

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Omar Lopez: next question.

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Dana White: A costume or yellow has.

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Dana White: A question good morning i'm a black village resident of four years I mentioned this in a previous meeting, but just wanted to reiterate the importance reforming the CPC rb to only include civilians not police officers.

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Dana White: I have only ever had appropriate respectful interactions with COPD and i'm sure the majority of officers are excellent.

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Dana White: However, it is important that people who may have had negative experiences with the police to feel they can come forward and have their complaints reviewed in partially.

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Dana White: From a civilian perspective, this seems like low hanging fruit and an easy recommendation to implement that would go a long way toward improving the perception of fairness, it is not I would appreciate, if someone can explain why it isn't Thank you.

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Omar Lopez: Thank you, and I have Richard start and then i'm going to chime in afterward Richard if you can start here.

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Richard Brady: Well it's it's simple, we thought that this was a really important starting point and the recommendations for the process to have independent and civilian review process for complaints so.

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Richard Brady: But that's one of the core recommendations in the report.

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Omar Lopez: Definitely, thank you.

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Omar Lopez: agree.

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Dana White: last question that I have so far is from Liam Nelson When will the final new draft be available.

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Richard Brady: um after these meetings, after the.

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Richard Brady: The Spanish speaking input session so next Saturday the process goes rather rapidly, we are so we have those things session next Saturday.

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Richard Brady: we've had the input throughout this month we are required to get a review, excuse me a dress or a.

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Richard Brady: revised draft of the report to the board on March, the fifth.

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Richard Brady: So, which is the end of the first week of March, so we will make the revisions we're starting them now and through next week and finalize them once we receive the input today.

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Richard Brady: The input next week and the input next Saturday and get those two are working committee as soon as possible and meet with them.

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Richard Brady: Next week before this is given to the board, because we need their input on the final draft as well, and then submit it to the board on the fifth so that's the process and and Omar, do you want to talk about the process after the fifth.

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Omar Lopez: Sure, so what happens after the fifth is that the Board is going to be reviewing that draft and.

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Omar Lopez: The Board is not just going to accept or not accept that entire report as a whole, what we're doing is going recommendation by recommendation and discussing them.

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Omar Lopez: In order for a recommendation to make it into the final draft what we'd agreed on is having three trustees or two trustees and the mayor agree to it, and then it would make it to the final recommendation that's consistent with the way that we have.

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Omar Lopez: had other similar processes and what allow for difference of opinion with within the board so we're going to be actually starting those conversations with the initial draft.

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Omar Lopez: That we have and that's happening during the next work session on Wednesday and, ultimately, what we're aiming for is having the work session on march 10 so I I.

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Omar Lopez: Like you said, Richard I working committee will get together on Wednesday march 3 then you'll send that report to the village board on march 5 on Friday.

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Omar Lopez: Then on march 10 is when we have the following work session we're going to be making the final edits and adjustments on that we're recommending.

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Omar Lopez: that ultimately, it will go to the legislative session on march 17 and that's when we would vote on it, so the.

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Omar Lopez: The public would have an opportunity, certainly before March 3 when that final draft gets put into have their feedback included in that final draft and then they're able to react to what is the final draft that we're passing on during the legislative session on march 17.

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Rika Levin: Okay, just a thank you, Omar Dana white just lost her I think there's some electricity problems going on, because Dana just lost the connection, so we can jump in with the Q amp a.

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Jaimie Hoffman: That person over Patricia i'm going to bring you over when we do that if you can please tell us your relationship to ossining as you begin Thank you.

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Patricia: hi my name is Patricia Hayes i'm a resident of asking and.

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Patricia: I have a couple of questions I wasn't sure I wasn't aware that this was actually that we were going to be reviewing the draft today I wasn't clear on that with the information that I saw so would have been a little bit more helpful, I find that i've found that throughout the process.

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Patricia: The information that is on especially like the Facebook, which I don't even have when I look, I have to actively try to.

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Patricia: To look at stuff from other people, because I don't use social media, and so I have been looking to see.

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Patricia: What you know more detailed information, had I known I would have looked up the drafts I don't see even though i'm happy that matrix reviewed it, because then I was like oh I got a lot of information and I appreciated that information.

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Patricia: I didn't I would have been more prepared to ask the questions if and so you're giving us this information, but you got to kind of have to process it because you know.

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Patricia: I would like a little bit more information about the.

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Patricia: The boards it all sounds good, but i'm a little confused one recommendation about the police, where they said that there was a committee of Community committee and how it has police officers on it.

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Patricia: The Board for the executive order, and you know that was unclear in the beginning, so I think there's, at least for me, how do you.

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Patricia: select the people that are on the board, how long are in that Community board, not the board of trustees but the policing boards and how long like you have to think about how long do they stay and things of those details are I don't know will they be.

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Patricia: presented in another meeting is that part of the draft that's just a question that I have.

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Patricia: Also for the policies and procedures, again, one of the things that I didn't know it would have been nice when we had these community.

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Patricia: calls to kind of have some guidance about what we were looking for you know you when you ask a general question about policing for myself, you know i've had don't have anything specific, but when you asked about how do you know.

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Patricia: Moving violation or just general interaction specific things that you could say oh yeah that's happened to me when I don't know what's wrong if I don't know the policy or procedure.

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Patricia: You know, like I don't Sometimes I feel that we don't ask the right questions to the.

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Patricia: Community and then that you don't get the right answer because it's so it was so generalize that we couldn't say you know anything specific i've had pretty much you know good experience with the police, but I also would love to have more transparency and.

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Patricia: I can't say that something went wrong.

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Omar Lopez: It seems like the feedback, maybe on your side Patricia but I wasn't able to get all of your questions, I believe there were three of them, if I can quickly recap one.

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Omar Lopez: about communication with respect to this meeting social media versus other ways of communicating to is the terms.

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Omar Lopez: For folks that are serving on the police Commission, the new board that has recommendation in the recommended in the report and then third is I knowing I what it is that you're reacting to asking for more context, there is that right.

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Patricia: yeah just more yes, more or less I definitely would like a little bit more information to be prepared for the call a little bit better.

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Patricia: Especially it's really exciting to see that we're going to have the policies and procedures available, but some people don't know how to look through that stuff how to navigate it again.

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Patricia: How of just putting the information in there, or just saying we have a board doesn't really make it sounds good on paper, but to really have an impact on the Community, how can we use.

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Patricia: Those policies, how could we get that information out to the Community, because I, to me, I had a hard time and again I didn't know that this was a call to review the draft that was already in place, I would have been a little bit more prepared and reviewing it myself.

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Omar Lopez: yeah that totally makes sense, so i'll try to answer those questions in line so.

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Omar Lopez: um first is respect communication, so we certainly did post on.

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Omar Lopez: social media that you mentioned actually one place where I would point you toward because I also have my misgivings with social media is our website and I the very talented.

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Omar Lopez: Jamie on our team does a wonderful job coming out with a blast every Thursday that is information on what's going on in the Community, so if you go to.

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Omar Lopez: village of boston.org you'll be able to see exactly how to sign up and actually we can connect you with Jamie i'd say get signed up for that newsletter.

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Omar Lopez: Because it has a really comprehensive overview of everything that's happening, including this initiative, in addition, we have the mayor's message which comes out on Tuesdays and mayor levin has been speaking about this.

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Omar Lopez: As well in those messages, so now the benefit of that is that it engages folks via email that are not.

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Omar Lopez: involved in social media The disadvantage is that if you're not engaged with technology in general, then you may not be plugged in right so.

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Omar Lopez: we're also having conversations about ways to engage with either older people, or people that don't have access to technology so that they also have the ability to know what's going on, but your point is well received there I in terms of the committee terms.

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Omar Lopez: Because this is suggested committee there there isn't fully fleshed out.

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Omar Lopez: All those details aren't fully fleshed out i'm going to turn to Richard if you can speak to if that has been part of the conversation at all.

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Richard Brady: It has and and there actually are some specific recommendations suggested recommendations within the report.

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Richard Brady: So, as it relates both to the CPC rb and the police Commission we've described a process like other boards and commissions were names are brought forward to the village board for in the mayor for consideration and they go through a review process and our name.

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Richard Brady: we've also outlined a process of staggered terms that each of these oversized boards and mechanisms aren't having a complete turnover.

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Richard Brady: For years, they would be staggered on the policies think you pretty much answered this as well as Patricia and her question Oh, I think it's this details, yes it is best practice and this reports has recommendations relating to putting.

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Richard Brady: Policies online.

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Richard Brady: A PDF of all of the hundred and 50 some policies and throw them up online and it'd be difficult for somebody who goes through policies, all the time, as we do to be able to sort through that so, unfortunately this is.

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Richard Brady: A change that is being implemented across the country, and there are firms out there who will would help organize the online presence for the policy so it's easy to navigate through.

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Richard Brady: So that they're tight spiting type there can be annotations and explanations to them and it's it's it's clickable so that you're not scrolling through 3000 pages to get to what you want.

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Richard Brady: and makes it a lot easier to find the context that you're referring to.

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Rika Levin: Can I chime in here Patricia I think one of your comments to started with i'm sorry, and this is recorded and speaking.

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Rika Levin: is about what you know, new and didn't know coming to this meeting, so I really appreciate that, let me, let me be a little bit clearer it's.

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Rika Levin: It is our intention it's actually written executive order that wants a draft is put together that the public.

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Rika Levin: Engagement occurs that's part of what was put out there, but from our perspective, this is not just about commenting on the draft.

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Rika Levin: That in and of itself would be helpful, because it would allow us to say Okay, we have a whole bunch of people that looked at it this way, and a bunch of people looked at it that way, and that helps us be informed is representatives of the.

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Rika Levin: The other piece, though Patricia is you're not limited to simply discussing the plan that was not the intention here, if you have a specific request.

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Rika Levin: Whether you read the plan or not, if you have a request that is specific to the Austin police that you would like to share with us, it could be.

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Rika Levin: Something that has happened, it could be something that you would like improved upon it might be a question, this is public engagement, but without a plan we'd be having you know that's what we've done with the focus groups and all that but.

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Rika Levin: we're not limited to the plan, the plan allows us to get public input to something that we're going to be looking at, but we're all taking notes and if there's some recommendation.

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Rika Levin: Because we're going to go to every single person I want at least give you the chance that if you had an idea coming here today.

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Rika Levin: That you wanted to hear about what's going on, but you also had ideas of ways going forward because none of us can go backwards so going forward that we should know about that you want to bring to our attention, as we look at this.

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Rika Levin: about the police, please do share that with us, and if you don't think about it, right now, you could go into the Q amp a and say look, I want you to consider this idea.

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Patricia: yeah that helps that's good, I think that helps you know clarify for a lot of people also that are on the call I do I don't know if other people have their hands raised, I did have a couple more things, but if other people have their hands raised, I can come back to it later.

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Rika Levin: Would you be okay to put it into the Q amp a those couple of things because will be interjecting every 10 minutes or so and going through them, or do you want to.

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Patricia: You know I do want to say it again, is more going forward with the Executive Board and understanding that the.

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Patricia: it's meant to even though you know the it to help the black Community right, the issue is with the black Community the black men in the black community is about 15% in ossining.

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Patricia: And i'm just wanted to make sure or ask the question how can you engage that Community when it's not the majority, how are you, what do you what steps are being.

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Patricia: taken to make sure that that community is being represented and that every voice has her, because I know the people on the board, there is diversity and there's a lot of people, but I don't feel that everyone.

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Patricia: has been engaged and especially the young kids the high school kids and you know it's hard to engage them we've tried, you know as a mom I you know, I have a teenage son and.

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Patricia: One of my recommendations were, and I see that that they mentioned the high school, but not just as to engage them as police officers, but just to engage them.

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Patricia: In community service in the boards and look to them for recommendations and suggestions, because they have been impacted and the everyday people in the Community.

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Patricia: That are not necessarily coming to the meetings and that are not necessarily I got a really good flyer in the mail about.

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Patricia: A seminar about energy saving, I haven't got anything i'm gonna join that zoom meeting so, but you know that I didn't get anything for this, and this is such an important you know.

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Patricia: executive, or is this is like a really once in a lifetime chance to make change and I don't really know again me not being the social media person.

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Patricia: Where their flyers outward how are you engaging that that specific Community when it's such a low percentage and going forward, I think it would benefit, I think there should be more engagement personally.

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Omar Lopez: Thank you, Patricia so i'm going to.

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Omar Lopez: quickly answer your question I because there's there's a lot that we could get into, but I also see that we have a couple of other hands raised and some more questions in the chat.

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Omar Lopez: So if there is a specific part of the question that you wanted to engage with more i'd love for you to raise your hand again so that we can circle back to you so.

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Omar Lopez: During this engagement, we have the working committee and the board thought a lot about how do we engage.

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Omar Lopez: As much of the Community as possible, particularly the voices that are not historically engaged in the ones that are most affected by the police and so.

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Omar Lopez: way of engaging people, and this is happening during a pandemic, while also trying to do engagement from any other initiatives, and so I we I would say there's more that we can do.

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Omar Lopez: There every time that we do this there's more that we learn about how to improve.

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Omar Lopez: With our public engagement and we recognize that this is not a one and done but part of an ongoing process until we're going to have the youth bureau coming out.

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Omar Lopez: Later this year that's a way to engage the youth, we have a number of initiatives that are happening through our parks and recreation department.

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Omar Lopez: that's certainly another way to engage the youth and with respect to law enforcement, specifically, I know that the chief who's coming to our meeting on Wednesday to.

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Omar Lopez: Speak to the plan will speak to the ways that the police department has engaged with the Community themselves but that's the kind of general engagement with respect to this plan, know that we have.

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Omar Lopez: made a concerted effort to reach out to the black community and all the others that I mentioned, and I i'm happy to see that so many folks I have not only come out today but have come out throughout the process, to give their thoughts and opinions.

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Rika Levin: I would like to quickly interject i'm sorry because Patricia what you're asking, I think, also frames you're helping us also frame the rest of the next hour and and.

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Rika Levin: i'm sorry i'm going to interject over, and I know that there are a lot of other people, but she's talking about is what pitchers is john is really important, so to answer your question.

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Rika Levin: We have a dozen boards, we are one of the few communities in the county of westchester until as to where the only Community that said civilian police review board, to be honest with you there are appointed positions.

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Rika Levin: Anyone, however, from the Community they're all listed on the website, we are actually looking all the time for people who want to be engaged.

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Rika Levin: There are a couple of year commitment there's some training involved, etc, so your your friend, as far as the youth I know it's not quite the US you had in mind, but we.

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Rika Levin: Already went through the US but, honestly, most of these committees 18 years of age and older so looking for people to be involved in that.

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Rika Levin: So I hope that that helps with some of that and we have had separate conversation not matrix although Richard was involved the couple regarding with black men as you had stated Omar, and I actually sat for a couple of hours with a group of ossining black men.

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Rika Levin: That came from a member of the working committees request for us to do that and we were happy to do it within days, so there has been things not everyone wants everything that they say and do to be.

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Rika Levin: Out there some people like to have a little bit more of a one to one, so I just wanted to interject with that and we're going to move on to the next one, thank you, Patricia please continue with emails to us or ever you want to communicate with us thanks Omer.

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Jaimie Hoffman: And so thank you so much mayor, I am going to Patricia i'm going to put you back into the into the attendee list now.

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Jaimie Hoffman: So the next person to speak is Jennifer cabrera i'm going to bring you over now so that you're prepared Thank you so much Jennifer and also, I know who you are, but if you could give you a relationship to ask me that would be very helpful, thank you.

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Jennifer Cabrera: hi Thank you i'm so i'm a resident of Austin and i'm also on the.

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Jennifer Cabrera: On the working committee and i'm Chair of the CPC rb so I actually had a few responses to to some of the questions that Patricia had.

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Jennifer Cabrera: um so number one I did want to clarify about the terms of those committees that she was asking about the CPC rb terms, right now, those are two years.

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Jennifer Cabrera: we're not asking to change that at all so everybody who's on it is on for two years, we have talked about staggering those terms because right now we have a CPC rb that's almost entirely brand new people.

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Jennifer Cabrera: Our longest serving Members started in 2019 so so pretty much everyone else it started in 2020 and that's been hard.

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Jennifer Cabrera: Like board of Commissioners that we are proposing, we actually talked about those terms being three years long we wanted to have a little bit of.

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Jennifer Cabrera: On the working committee and and I don't know that mayor 11 necessarily has a lot of information about this, because this was before she was mayor um.

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Jennifer Cabrera: And we came up with a with a lot of proposal proposals about how to make sure that people knew about about this entire process and part of that did involve sending out stuff in the mail, because we know that not everybody has.

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Jennifer Cabrera: and frankly I i'm i'm i'm very disappointed about this, and this is something that we have brought to the board of trustees as something that we were not happy about.

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Omar Lopez: Thank you Jennifer for those comments and for your leadership on both of those boards really appreciate that, as a quick.

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Omar Lopez: response to the mailers question because it is also one that Diana lemon asked in the chat, so this is an ongoing conversation that the Board has been having not only with respect to.

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Omar Lopez: The police reform reinvention Commission, but many of its other priorities when we have let's say, like the dp w site going.

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Omar Lopez: I that the process is going on, near the waterfront people saying well how can you have this big project, and no one knows about it through a Mailer or.

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Omar Lopez: The parking diet that we're doing there's a variety of the comprehensive plan that just passed a variety of things and so.

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Omar Lopez: we've been having conversations about what is the kind of cadence and structure that makes the most sense and some of the things that we're weighing our.

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Omar Lopez: there's certainly an economic question of it is not inexpensive to send out that many mailers until wanting to be conscious about using taxpayer dollars in a way that's going to be.

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Jennifer Cabrera: Actually, if I can.

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Jennifer Cabrera: If I can just interrupt we didn't have that conversation.

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Omar Lopez: that's what i'm saying.

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Jennifer Cabrera: It may have been the case, but we were not told that and we didn't have a conversation, even with the entire committee, so I want to be really clear that those those recommendations that we made were not discussed right.

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Omar Lopez: So I totally receive that and, as the representative of the board of trustees on the I the working committee i'll take responsibility for that that was my fault for not closing the loop and the conversation that we started.

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Omar Lopez: With the board of trustees and then bringing that back over to one of our working committee.

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Omar Lopez: meetings that is totally on me until i'm sorry for having dropped the ball there that the priority remains because we still need to get the word out to folks for ongoing priorities that we have in the village and so.

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Omar Lopez: While we weren't able to do it this time I know that we recognize the importance of getting the word out in whether it's mailers or something else, like that I what the best way of doing that is something that we're keenly aware of and want to be thoughtful about.

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Omar Lopez: Jamie and I can get kicking it to you for the next.

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Jaimie Hoffman: No problem Jennifer i'm gonna bring you back over to.

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Jaimie Hoffman: The attendee list, and I am going to bring over Leah and then, once Leah you're finished we're going to have our trusty white begin reading the Q amp a because I think we have 13 questions in there okay so.

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Jaimie Hoffman: And then, once the that Dana white begins the Q amp a if there's anyone else that wants to ask questions, please leave your hands up and then the order in which you have come in as the order in which I will call on you.

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Jaimie Hoffman: So it the system automatically sorts it by the order in which you've raised your hand okay so.

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Jaimie Hoffman: we're going to do that now oh it doesn't look like that person still has their hand up the only person aaliyah there you are okay i'm gonna bring you over Thank you.

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Jaimie Hoffman: Leah if you can unmute yourself, please and tell the group your relationship to asking before you begin Thank you so much.

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Leah Nelson: hi Emily and Nelson I am a member of a local house with faith, as well as the ossining n double a CP.

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Leah Nelson: I emailed matrix this recommendation, and I spoke about it before, but I just want to reiterate it at this meeting.

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Leah Nelson: Because I think it's really important, I think what you guys have done thus far is really great I think oversight is great and diversity in hiring is great and alternatives to police response is great, however, I don't think policy and training is enough to change police culture.

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Leah Nelson: On the building trust and a feeling of safety in the Community for everyone is contingent upon police being held accountable for their own misconduct I just I want to make sure that nothing like George George floyd ever happens again.

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Leah Nelson: The ossining police contract is now on the village website.

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Leah Nelson: On page 16 under identification the paragraph explains the currently the police will not be held very financially responsible in findings of police misconduct, and that the village is financially responsible.

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Leah Nelson: And that's your taxpayers money this clause needs to change, make the police financially responsible in findings of police misconduct, this will change bad behavior and.

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Leah Nelson: Accountability changes, like this one are starting to happen in this country westchester county has proposed it Colorado past it new Mexico and Vermont are working on it.

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Leah Nelson: Police contracts are negotiable and it appears that our settings has expired, and perhaps can be renegotiated, but I think mayor 11 and the board of trustees would have to be on board with the change like this, please consider this Thank you.

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Omar Lopez: Thank you Lee I appreciate you bringing forward that really detailed recommendation we certainly will be including it as part of our consideration for this plan, thank you Jamie.

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Jaimie Hoffman: So I have, thank you very much.

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Jaimie Hoffman: So, if you would like trustee wait to begin to read, do you want to pick maybe five questions that obviously in the arm, which they came in etc in the Q amp a and then the next person to set will will bring.

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Jaimie Hoffman: Over when you're done with that first set of questions is going to be Mr Jimmy Smith Okay, so thank you.

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Dana White: Okay um first Diana lemon had a comment Thank you Jennifer for the transparency.

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Dana White: i'm Virginia Stillman has a question will the public be able to ask to be considered for these two boards.

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Dana White: Or will the mayor or Board of Trustees select people they know or think would be suitable, so the two boards, I guess, for the civilian review review more this question was asked a few minutes ago, so I want to make sure we we capture the context again.

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Dana White: So.

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Omar Lopez: Okay, I think I can take a first crack at this so i'm by our village Charter, which is the document that lays out all of the.

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Omar Lopez: laws and policies for our village boards and commissions like this, our by Mayor of pointy so I by our Charter, which is like our Constitution here in the village.

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Omar Lopez: We follow that, and so the mayor would be making that decision, unless we were to change the Charter to reflect a difference in in one of the board.

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Omar Lopez: So that is why it is structured in that way.

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Richard Brady: And if I can add this Richard here that specifically relating to the proposed police Commission that would require a charter change, so the process could be created and defined at that time.

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Manuel R. Quezada: Thank you can just piggyback on down when that Omar said, usually for the civilian review complain a portion of that.

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Manuel R. Quezada: What has happened in the past is we usually get letters of interests arm from from members of the community and there's an interview process that goes through a usually is.

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Manuel R. Quezada: The Mayor in one trustee additional to that as well um After reviewing you know, usually is attached, with a resume and After reviewing some of that stuff they actually common front of village board.

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Manuel R. Quezada: Excuse me, as a recommendation and we kind of go over all that process in there and I usually that's what happens with all the.

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Manuel R. Quezada: All the appointments that are made by either the mayor or the board itself so there's another obviously we're not talking about any other.

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Manuel R. Quezada: committed or any any other assumption, and now and but that's there's other portions where the building manager points that person some download, but we, I think, right now, we are very, very specific on this particular board.

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Manuel R. Quezada: For the civilian police review board DAS the process that we have always done it I and i'm assuming that be very similar to you from going forward with that even even with that.

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Manuel R. Quezada: You know where the recommendations usually for the police officers are part of this board.

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Manuel R. Quezada: It does comes from a recommendation of the police chief, and it goes in front of us, and then we either say yes or no, are you doing kind of go from there, but if it's something that i'm missing on i'm going to look a store.

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Manuel R. Quezada: Did I miss anything in regards to that that we miss anything have their processes, if you could please just clarify that Thank you.

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Stuart Kahan: You did not miss anything, it is.

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Stuart Kahan: It is an appointee.

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Stuart Kahan: On the Board has been involved with that appointment when we have made appointments in the past.

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Stuart Kahan: I would just need to just double check as a specific reference under the civil police complaint review board as to whether that's a board appointment.

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Stuart Kahan: trustee Lopez is correct that where there is no specific reference in the code, it is a mayoral appointment, but ordinarily that has been the mayor with basically with upon recommendation or follow up with the board, thank you.

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Omar Lopez: Thank you Stuart and thank you for following up there, and the only other thing that I would add, is.

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Omar Lopez: of to the 65 people that are currently in this meeting, in addition to the 10 panelists what I would love for you to do is go to village of ossining.org.

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Omar Lopez: The very talented Jamie Hoffman has ensured that at the very top of the web page there's an image with a bunch of hands and it says get involved if you were to click on that it brings you over to.

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Omar Lopez: A web page that shows you what all the different ways that you can get involved are, including with the civilian police complaint review board and that is a way for you to.

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Omar Lopez: submit an application and your interest i've throughout the year, if there are any openings but I certainly there are towards the end of the calendar year is when we typically start to make appointments for.

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Omar Lopez: vacancies that are left so that is a way for you to get involved in so that it's not just who is.

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Omar Lopez: The Mayor knows, or who the trustees know that's a way for the Community to integrate their interest in getting involved data.

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Dana White: i'm allison mckenney has a couple of questions she asks Are there plans to provide training and alternatives to deadly force and handling incidents.

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Dana White: policies are all very good, but what a stressful situation occurs people, including officers tend to react as they are trained to reflect the react, rather than thinking through what the departmental policies are.

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Omar Lopez: When I have Richard start here, I think, the one thing that I would say, before Richard starts, is that all of the trainings that our police department.

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Omar Lopez: I go through, I are evaluated every year, the police chief is the one who makes a recommendation in terms of what those training should be and often there are a core number of recommended of trainings that police officers go through, but there's a rotation as well because.

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Omar Lopez: it's reflective of what the current needs are and so forth, and so, when it comes to I deadly force, I know that that's something that's really important Richard if you can speak a little bit about what the current I training for that one time.

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Richard Brady: i'm there is training on de escalation techniques and we've recommended additional training and more frequent updates to de escalation techniques so that's that's the the principle when it came out in the process.

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Omar Lopez: Thank you, Richard data.

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Dana White: And then her said allison's other question is, are there plans to improve improve background checks for hiring to avoid inadvertently hiring officers who have been a problem elsewhere and how possible is this.

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Bob Fritsche: I think I could jump in on it i'm get a background check they're all, as we all know, there's background checks and if there's anything in their.

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Bob Fritsche: file or record that there's been a problems, you know it's seen now if it's not in there, you know we can't see if there's no history of it so that's.

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Bob Fritsche: that's a.

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Bob Fritsche: Double edged sword, so to speak, so but um you know everybody's checked, even on new hire staff to go to a psychiatric interview.

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Bob Fritsche: So this is it's pretty intense it's pretty thorough so um but as far as if it's not in their file, you know who could find it that's that's, the only thing I could say that.

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Richard Brady: If I can add to that, so the police departments background check process is is quite thorough and I think somebody asked another question about this.

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Richard Brady: It involves not just records, but also review of social media postings and things like that, and those are increasingly common practices and background checks in the Community.

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Richard Brady: But it's not just file reviews it's also interviews it's it's thorough in that way to in terms of speaking with.

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Richard Brady: Former employers and neighbors and people like that family members, etc.

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Omar Lopez: Thank you, I Dana let's take one more from the chat and then we'll bring it to Jamie.

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Dana White: Mariana cerise he asks, can you provide in more details, what you have learned regarding best justice focused practices regarding the interaction between local police enforcement and ice agents.

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Dana White: Also, can you provide more detail about your specific recommendations in the report about how Austin police department would interact in circumstances when ice is expected in the Community.

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Bob Fritsche: First of all, ISIS never expected that.

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Bob Fritsche: You don't know when they're coming they don't have to notify.

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Bob Fritsche: Fortunately, I guess here not saying they do notify them, which leads into hill a whole other conversation with the the observing of what's going on, so um.

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Bob Fritsche: The interaction with the local police, you know again they they're sent to observe they don't escort they don't get involved unless God forbid, something happens.

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Bob Fritsche: So I hopefully that answered your question, but like again they're never expected, they can come and go anytime they want, they could put an officer in every corner, we wouldn't know it, you know it's a federal group, so we have no control with that.

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Bob Fritsche: If I.

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Richard Brady: If I can add to that.

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Richard Brady: The board member is completely right that.

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Richard Brady: Is is under no obligation to notify the local entity that they are going to be their.

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Richard Brady: Best Practice, however, which is part of the question is exactly what we've recommended in this traffic report, and that is that there is no cooperation.

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Richard Brady: Unless you're specifically called by ice or by a Community Member, so I think the issue is the perception and relating to what I would term being on standby, just in case the perception is that if you were visibly at the scene.

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Richard Brady: And you have not been called but you've been pre alerted that you're going to be present as the Board Member mentioned.

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Richard Brady: There is the perception of cooperation, if not the real cooperation on an incident so best practice is that they are not there and there's no policy, about being on standby because usually you don't know they're going to be there.

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Rika Levin: And with a quick introduction that's the recommendation to the board the Board is collecting information um we just as a group haven't decided yet in which direction we're going because we still collecting input from the Community.

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Rika Levin: that's what we are as a board is where that enters into.

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Omar Lopez: Thank you mayor, thank you, Richard Thank you Bob.

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Omar Lopez: Jamie if you can bring on our next speaker.

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Jaimie Hoffman: Absolutely jermaine Smith i'm going to bring you over while I think some people know your relationship to offer you be helpful if you were to also explain who you are and your relationship as well i'm going to bring you over now, and if you can unmute I would appreciate it, thank you.

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Jermain Smith: How are you guys doing.

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Jaimie Hoffman: Thank you.

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Jermain Smith: Thank you, I can i'm sorry I had to pick someone from the airport, so I couldn't really see what's going on on the screen, so my name is Jimmy Smith longtime resident on sitting.

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Jermain Smith: Work in higher education, it and I have to Community organizations and i'm just an advocate and a youth development coach and we do projects and stuff in ossining.

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Jermain Smith: A couple things I want to address one just for the record that I totally disagree with this webinar format for this Community meeting.

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Jermain Smith: I can see where it's helpful and Board of Trustees meetings where your time is limited, and you have a specific agenda and Community comments.

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Jermain Smith: are isolated to like the last portion of that, but the level of engagement that's needed for police reform this this environment is not conducive to getting people to be.

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Jermain Smith: inclusive in this conversation.

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Jermain Smith: Community can't see familiar faces and you guys can troll who's talking who's the narrative and we don't know if someone's missing if there's a comment missing not saying that you're doing something malicious.

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Jermain Smith: But it just doesn't build a sense of trust and transparency between the village and the the community at large i'm speaking to a couple things, one thing that i'm.

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Jermain Smith: May 11 addresses that she said, and the executive order, it said the comments.

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Jermain Smith: are sought out once a draft is completed, wants to draft is out and actuality on this process is different um so.

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Jermain Smith: The the executive order mandated that Mr polly's included Community stakeholders and identified a couple different categories for that so those comments and questions and and to the draft we're.

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Jermain Smith: Proceeding the draft coming out, including the draft.

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Jermain Smith: With a working committee and and Community stakeholders and then by law with any anything that you're issuing any laws anything that's mandate out, you have to have public feedback before.

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Jermain Smith: it's ratified and voted on, so this process is supposed to be more engaging to from the start.

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Jermain Smith: By the doctrine of the executive order to let us and, as well as the resources guy that was sent to all municipalities, so should have been more engaging and I think.

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Jermain Smith: I think one of the things that is evident in a lot of these conversations with you guys I hearing comments, but you're not listening to what people are saying.

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Jermain Smith: Because it's been several times, where in all calls and I was on a call that the mayor was talking about, with the black men in the Community.

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Jermain Smith: And I appreciate it Omar was on that call I believe was on that call as well and Richard and a couple other ones so we've had conversations with engaging and throughout this process.

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Jermain Smith: What was what was made evident was the intent of the executive order was written written in a way.

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Jermain Smith: That express that there was implicit bias and equities predominantly happened to the black and African American Community and throughout this process, we hear constant and.

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Jermain Smith: Ongoing feedback and even with the the presentation from Richard of matrix there was a lot of comments about ice and addressing the special needs and.

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Jermain Smith: Intervention training and all the stuff and it was one sentence about bias, training, there was nothing about use of force policy.

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Jermain Smith: And it was nothing about accountability discussed in that in that presentation.

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Jermain Smith: And I think, to address the inequities and things that have happened and policing and all the racial injustice.

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Jermain Smith: Those two things have to be President, you have to have policy to stipulate what's acceptable and then you have to hold people accountable when they violate those policies if you don't have those two in place.

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Jermain Smith: Then you can't whole officers accountable because they're doing what they think is necessary to.

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Jermain Smith: start a thread or to reduce a situation when we had policies and we had again we're gonna go back to training, but I don't think that really affects the the.

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Jermain Smith: The real sense of what's happening because we have training across the country and races bias, training, but we still have these incidents that are happening.

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Jermain Smith: So we can we can do the training to set a baseline, but we have to have policies and we have to have accountability that's, the only way you're going to get these things to change.

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Jermain Smith: There was mentioning about the communications and an SEC on the Community police review board, so the reboot view board came out of tragedy and you guys can speak the history of that it wasn't like asked me just.

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Jermain Smith: arbitrarily said let's start this review board proactively and do that it became an issue Community was outraged and then this.

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Jermain Smith: Report was created out of that issue so So while we did have this can do board with no one else did.

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Jermain Smith: We also had some incidents that no other communities have so when we speak about what we had and try to compare to other communities, we have had a person murdered by the police officer in ossining head protest here.

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Jermain Smith: And I was just one of the incidents and again we you know people going to say Oh, it was a long go one is too many so if we had one here and we've had to react to that.

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Jermain Smith: that's a different process and then, if we will proactive and did this ahead of time at which this process is trying to do and we've seen to be trying to do everything we can to to not be part of the actual solution.

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Jermain Smith: We talked about communications, but the website and but this call wasn't updated to yesterday.

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Jermain Smith: We talked about the mayor's message and appreciate her putting a message out and thank you for that, but it and just not not trying to.

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Jermain Smith: Make that piece of negative she did a great job of putting the message out, but in the message is just said, to encourage to read.

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Jermain Smith: I think i'm speaking to patty's point early and to some of the other points is that if we had a little bit more clarification and that that.

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Jermain Smith: This is going to be a Community discussion about police reform but we'd also like to hear feedback about the executive order and the draft that we submitted to the Community here's the link.

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Jermain Smith: You know, so it will be they'll be on records to read and actually be proactive and tell them we would like to hear your feedback to this executive order.

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Jermain Smith: And then we talked about de escalation again talking about this, but there's a there's a difference and and de escalation and use of force policy, so you can be trained to de escalate and that's that's a different than.

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Jermain Smith: Are you allowed to shoot someone when they're driving away, are you allowed to shoot as someone who was on on are you allowed to use your taser certain times.

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Jermain Smith: And there's this Gray area every community, you know the legal ramifications of that the village Council has to go through the lines and.

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Jermain Smith: Everything and look at that, so I just wanted to make that point and couple things speaking to the draft on one I think you guys should address the timeline speaking because.

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Jermain Smith: admin, at best, it makes the village look like it's an epic because it says that this process started in summer of last year, but then it jumps into October, so it looks like it was like months of inactivity.

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Jermain Smith: So I think you should address that and put in there, that you know we we started this process in the summer is brought to our attention that we had to have a working committee.

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Jermain Smith: And then we revamped the process and started over and and put something out to address that because there's a gap there that's not being addressed in that, in that, in the draft.

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Jermain Smith: So, so is either looks like you're hiding something that there's there's this level of mistrust, there are that that that the villages in APP and it took him hours to put together a working committee.

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Jermain Smith: Another thing that was a concern I think you guys should just address for just for optics is that you said, the final meeting for the high school kids was January 19.

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Jermain Smith: But then within the draft he says between January six and gentlemen 13th the board and subcommittees met and not reform.

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Jermain Smith: put together this report in this process, so it made it look like this draft was put together without the input of the high school students so.

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Jermain Smith: I think you should just address that maybe change the wording of that in the draft just to make it.

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Jermain Smith: I know you guys, including conversations, but just the dates look like they're off because it says between January six and June 13 on page three, but then on the previous page it says of high school engagement meetings on January 19.

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Jermain Smith: Another piece.

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Jermain Smith: That I wanted to address one was on page of London, when we spoke, there was a comment made about.

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Jermain Smith: try to find it real quick i'm sorry I thought I had it here again i'm in the car so i'm trying to.

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Jermain Smith: Trying to have everything ready, but it's a little bit crazy um it was on page 11 one.

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Jermain Smith: We keep tying immigrants to the Latin Community only so it says with immigrant Latin community that um you know we have to Members.

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Jermain Smith: I think we have to separate the conversation from Spanish speaking and immigrant, because we have immigrants from Poland from Ireland from Jamaica from different places.

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Jermain Smith: In the world, so we have to stop time immigrants to only Spanish speaking communities, because as immigrants from all over so we have to that's one thing we have to change.

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Jermain Smith: And also, those are policing here and I can't remember exactly where it was where we address and say we have were filled.

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Jermain Smith: So many students, especially students of color and students with special needs, and then you put examples of that you put disabilities and LGBT Q.

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Jermain Smith: And that's equating special needs to the to the LGBT community that has to be changed.

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Jermain Smith: Immediately as well, I think, I believe that if you listen to some of the people in the work and committee and maybes draft edits before this was out to the Community that color polly been rectified immediately.

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Jermain Smith: So an arm and I don't wanna go too much, but this.

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Jermain Smith: i'm going to send some some requests for actual policies, but I think one thing.

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Jermain Smith: That, I think we have to start looking at a procedural justice model here in ossining and I think that changes the dynamic of how we engage.

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Jermain Smith: And I think a lot of people understand and know that we don't have a problem right now with policing in ossining.

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Jermain Smith: A lot of us have a good relationship with police and what we did have an incident here, we already had an example of that happening here, we had example.

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Jermain Smith: Excuse me of that happening and local communities, but, but this is a proactive process we're trying to prevent it from happening again here we're trying to be ahead of the curve, and I think.

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Jermain Smith: A lot of things that we're talking about is is leaning towards that, so I think we have to start addressing.

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Jermain Smith: and stop looking at it as an us versus them and start looking at is like we want to be part of the solution, and how can we help police.

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Jermain Smith: do their job better and more safely, not only for them, but for the Community and the last thing I think.

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Jermain Smith: That you know, again, I have a bunch of but i'm going to send them an email, but I think looking at an early intervention system that is designed to identify offers that may have some kind of.

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Jermain Smith: Problems a performance issues are something going on with their lives personally police officers it's a stressful job it can be.

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Jermain Smith: As intense, not just with them personally because of that job, but things want to impress the light.

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Jermain Smith: cove, it is very stressful and high intense down the front lines, a lot of this stuff affects them, so I think if we can have some kind of early identifying system.

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Jermain Smith: That can identify those those offices that had issues, I think that will be helpful so i'll shut up for now and i'll just send some of the recommendations and email.

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Jermain Smith: um but, again, I think the village would be suited best not to have the webinar format for this type of engagement.

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Jermain Smith: I think it better suits them for the board of trustees meetings I think this should have been a more open on engaging Community platform, as opposed to this one, but we're not format Thank you guys.

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Omar Lopez: Thank you very much jermaine, thank you for your detailed recommendations and thank you for your engagement throughout this process from the very beginning you've been someone that has been really, really engaged and has pushed us to be.

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Omar Lopez: doing the best work that we can, so thank you for that i'm going to respond in kind of chunks to what you spoke about so.

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Omar Lopez: I receive your feedback about disagreeing with the webinar format message received there.

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Omar Lopez: I would put ossining Community engagement with respect to this process up against any community in this state, I think that we've gone above and beyond what most municipalities have done.

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Omar Lopez: Including municipalities of our size or larger personally ones that that are of our size.

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Omar Lopez: We have done a lot now that's, not to say that we've done it all or we've done the best i'm sure there are others that have done more than we haven't have done it better and there's more than that, we can do.

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Omar Lopez: But i'm really proud of the engagement, both in I putting together of this draft, and since it's come out not, I think that we've.

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Omar Lopez: done more than most, and would push us to do even more that the following is a set of recommendations that that you made about having more accountability for our policies with respect to the CBC rb.

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Omar Lopez: all the way down the line I i've noted them, they are in the record and you said you will be sending an email that details them as well, I know that I we're going to have a transcript of this entire zoom call.

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Omar Lopez: made available to us until it'll be available in detail, then, in addition to the email that you said, and that we have received it we we hear what you're saying and we're going to be.

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Omar Lopez: Taking all that into account those kinds of detailed recommendations, make a big difference when we're considering which ones to advance or not, so thank you very much for jermaine now I really appreciate your engagement your thoughts you unmuted.

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Jermain Smith: And so I definitely appreciate that, and again I know we're doing a lot.

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Jermain Smith: But I think we have to do our best, as a community and not compare ourselves to other communities, I think one of the things that we fear, causing is that.

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Jermain Smith: perfect is the enemy of good and and that's that's well said, and you know that's a.

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Jermain Smith: Great catch on, but what what happens is that then we're good enough as enemy of doing our best and we're not doing our best in this process, we haven't been inclusive.

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Jermain Smith: To again we have a diverse i'm going to say committee, but when you look at the committee as a lot of the same faces as people that represent organizations is.

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Jermain Smith: Three close them in the black men on the communities one's a police officer one's a clergyman and then.

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Jermain Smith: And then, who else is on the Indian kindle be can was born on the 11th hour after push back and he's been born on as a co represent of the naacp and, as a community at large.

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Jermain Smith: And then we have people on working committee that have not attended meeting have asked for attendance for for the meetings so you have people who are quote unquote speak for the Community.

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Jermain Smith: And the Community and i'm not sure if we can get a record of the attendance of WHO.

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Jermain Smith: who've been a part of that process so you've had the opportunity to add people who want to be engaged, but then.

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Jermain Smith: People were added that and not not by any far as life goes on and people have things to do and they'd be busy, and maybe have personal issues that are coming up so i'm not trying to fault them for not being able to be engaged, but when you have someone who's.

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Jermain Smith: The absent for for a long period of time or people who can't show up because their job, whatever it is, then, what happens is you losing that diversity of thought and then you're not including other people that could have engaged in that time in that process and then also.

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Jermain Smith: i'll leave it to dial it i'll leave it open to other people, so you know we're going to further engage in that I just think we had the opportunity to include.

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Jermain Smith: More black men for men, especially young men from the Community as part of this process.

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Jermain Smith: anytime we have any of the conversation and we if this was a process about women in coding, we will not include men as men as men on this call and exclude that community.

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Jermain Smith: So you know it looks good on paper, and when we talk about this things in a vacuum, but when people actually see.

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Jermain Smith: If we look at who's on a working committee and see what they represent as far as organizations and and and different positions.

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Jermain Smith: As the pose of people at large, if you look at the the guide and the resource guide have sent out by the state, they even said.

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Jermain Smith: get people to work with media was incarcerated that had high interactions with police.

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Jermain Smith: Speaking to the community at large, and not to elected officials are selected representatives are you know equity Task Force members and.

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Jermain Smith: I work with everyone on majority of people on the board of the work Committee, I think that fantastic I think they should have been included in conversation, as we said 1000 times I just think it should have been other people include that conversation as well, but.

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Jermain Smith: Again, I appreciate we're doing more than other communities, but that's not really a high bar on, if you look at some of the work that's going on for the working committee there's a lot of complaints going on across the across the state.

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Jermain Smith: So you know I think we should establish what that bar is and we should be the the litmus on how this prizes processes dying and not looking to the other communities and what they're doing when we have a more diverse community and a lot of other so i'll leave it at that, thank you guys.

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Omar Lopez: Thank you jermaine The one thing that I would respond to is.

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Omar Lopez: Because it used, you said a lot and I appreciate your feedback is with respect to have representation on the working committee, so this is.

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Omar Lopez: A point of tension that has existed from the inception of the creation of the working committee and i'll speak for myself and i'm not speaking for the board or anyone else but.

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Omar Lopez: Have you been a part of that process from the very beginning, one of the things that we were considering when putting together the working committee is.

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Omar Lopez: This is a complex issue of the Communities engagement with law enforcement and how do you put together a group of people that are going to be able to get together on some sort of regular basis.

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Omar Lopez: And while they themselves will have experiences with law enforcement are also connected to wider communities that I can talk about all the difference in experience, because the reality is that I, as an individual, I only know my own experience and.

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Omar Lopez: Having representation on the board that reflects our Community really matters and I race and ethnicity, I these, these are not clear cut things so you take me as an example, I am Afro Latino I identify as black as I walk around ossining I.

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Omar Lopez: I am phenotypically black Okay, so when I walk around people in the Community widely don't lie see me as I Hispanic or Latino next they see me as black.

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Omar Lopez: And the way that I know that is because, when I go into many Spanish speaking establishments these between English.

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Omar Lopez: And the way, and they are there are other people ahead of me or behind me that may look feel typically Latino or Hispanic they speak to them in Spanish, and I am Dominican I speak Spanish fluently.

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Omar Lopez: But I that's it, and this is my experience the same with the police, when I encounter the police, the police may or may not know that i'm Dominican I present as black, and that is my experience.

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Omar Lopez: And when you were naming who was on the board and who was black, you did not name me now that's because you know you may not consider me black or whatever.

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Omar Lopez: i'm not saying that you do or don't but it's also not unusual people don't look at me always from the black community and go oh he's one of ours.

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Omar Lopez: So i'm kind of a man between lands i'm i'm either fully Hispanic or Latino X, but not fully accepted their new or my fully accepted in the black community as one of theirs.

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Omar Lopez: And so I that's my experience, so what is my engagement with law enforcement how am I represented on the board.

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Omar Lopez: I only bring it by example, as an example of one to say whether we bring in young people, or people have lived in Austin for generations people that are.

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Omar Lopez: biracial or people that may may identify as black but present as something else.

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Omar Lopez: it's very, very tricky and to say that these three or four or five or 50 people we had 50 black men on the on the committee.

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Omar Lopez: Would they represent the blackmail experience of law enforcement in ossining I would say no, because it's individualized it depends, but there are themes that come up there are things that we know.

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Omar Lopez: That our pattern to not just one offs now we're trying to identify those patterns, so that we can address them in policy and that's what this is all about.

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Omar Lopez: Because we there may be one off interactions of a police officers having a bad day if a citizen is having a bad day whatever it is, but how can we improve the relationship between the Community and the police, how can we improve that through policy and so.

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Omar Lopez: I appreciate domain your engagement and as we continue to work on this together, I hope that you continue to stay engaged because I find your voice to be one that is very important Jamie if you can bring.

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Jermain Smith: Your qualifications.

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Jermain Smith: You are like official.

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Jermain Smith: So um I just want to make sure as a point of clarification.

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Jermain Smith: What I did say is that the representation on the board is a groups and organizations, so you as an elected official have a different level of engagement peace officers, then a person off the street and village of ossining.

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Jermain Smith: The pastor Jones has a different relationship with pleased in a person off the streets in the village of ossining.

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Jermain Smith: been URBAN has a police officer has a different level engaging the police officer, then people off the street in the village of ossining.

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Jermain Smith: So, and then again we've talked about this and length and and and so when we when we paint these narratives of being inclusive and saying that you identify the black that's all well and good, but you're.

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Jermain Smith: you're you and I, and I did not mention you because you are an elected official you are oversight of the police department, they know who you are so when we talk about level engagement with the.

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Jermain Smith: Police department I can't count a board of trustees Member as having a level of engagement, the same as a high school kid or myself even myself I got I got a different level of engagement, because i'm known in the Community.

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Jermain Smith: But if we have people, but I but i've also interact with with the youth youth coach i've been to work on the West just account volunteer for us youth board so if you're talking about.

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Jermain Smith: Who can have on the board like I asked to be part of the process of beginning and I represent a larger demographic than probably majority of the people on the board, so you know when we say Oh, we could.

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Jermain Smith: always do, that what if isms and possibilities, but this was the one time that the village has in a mandate, the opportunity to include.

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Jermain Smith: The black men and the community at large is evident there's names identified an executive order, it said predominately black and African American men and the executive order, and then we still excluded.

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Jermain Smith: The Community and decided to go with.

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Jermain Smith: The usual suspects, the same names, we always see that boards and not sitting on my knee I think when you have a great lesson about think you're great for the Community, I appreciate you and the rest of the board members.

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Jermain Smith: What i'm saying is that we had the opportunity to do more we're not doing our best we're doing good but we're not doing our best what i'm saying so i'll leave it at that and then.

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Jermain Smith: You can take me out and back to the general form Thank you guys and we'll we'll engage more water appreciate you.

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Jaimie Hoffman: Thank you Jimmy and i'm gonna will be back over, thank you for your comments.

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Jaimie Hoffman: Okay, so the next person not bringing over and if i'm saying this wrong or if it's an acronym or what have you I have br E and deed aka so Brenda.

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Jaimie Hoffman: i'm going to bring you over i'd like you to please give you a relationship to ossining and then after you speak the person at 827-560-7004 will be brought over and then row okay so.

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Jaimie Hoffman: hang tight as they bring you over and again your relationship to asking, please.

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Jaimie Hoffman: So please unmute.

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BRENDAK: yeah.

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Jaimie Hoffman: Yes, Sir, thank you.

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BRENDAK: yeah my name is Jared Smith up my email I.

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BRENDAK: don't wanna.

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BRENDAK: I don't want to get her in trouble.

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BRENDAK: I just want to overwhelm yourself with me make it earlier, by the way, just as much as my son, so I don't want nobody the bank debt.

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BRENDAK: conspiracy to get on but i've.

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BRENDAK: lived in the village last name for 50.

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BRENDAK: I was there when the quick Malone, I think the place of the President double ACP with dissipated and and.

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BRENDAK: negotiated police.

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BRENDAK: Rule boy.

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BRENDAK: At that time we had some of the same issue that you're looking at now and we also had the same recommendations of similar recommendation that you're doing now, and we still have any same.

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BRENDAK: So i'm taking that.

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BRENDAK: To my end i'm very confrontational like to take what I believe so i'm not going to do tonight towards the board members or anybody else.

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BRENDAK: But I believe this has been, as usual, you do when a black person is killed, we have all these issues with.

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BRENDAK: Police not being trained our well, maybe they missed honesty I just people it's been psychic made it notice, so this excuse, but but, and we always minimize the issue that we need to build.

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BRENDAK: i'm gonna.

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BRENDAK: issue this executive order for specific reason he stated, because of the murder just gone because of the hundred years of constant murder black people, we need to do something about.

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BRENDAK: It appears that we minimize that because now, every time i'm listening i'm listening we're talking about general police behavior and that's what community.

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BRENDAK: You know it, this this this man, because the general behavior police officer is concerned, he was mad because we constantly have reason that people are killed for no cost.

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BRENDAK: we're constantly having a sound we have ginsberg and after you know we party Eric back, this is not something that every part of relativity facing this country's been.

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BRENDAK: Consistent of three or 400 years like people lies hasn't matter now we're having this it's real mental pain or We reformed and what we're discussing issues.

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01:31:28.560 --> 01:31:38.010

BRENDAK: and say Okay, we are now what you see now, this is a bit apples to refill my police department and talk about all the issues, I am very open and loving enough everybody.

593

01:31:38.580 --> 01:31:51.330

BRENDAK: there's some time you have to address the issue before and before us is a black people being murdered just without cause that's what was put before to God that's what they said because of this.

594

01:31:52.380 --> 01:31:56.280

BRENDAK: And I say when they say, because this, this is the intent, this is why i'm writing this.

595

01:31:57.360 --> 01:32:06.120

BRENDAK: Because, for years, black people black young man oh man if people call it a bm murder and defining it it's been adjusted.

596

01:32:06.810 --> 01:32:19.380

BRENDAK: So when they when he put this order saying we need accountability don't think he was talking about less accountability about how you have emotion modi let's help train.

597

01:32:21.540 --> 01:32:24.540

BRENDAK: let's have joy and clearly in how we.

598

01:32:28.500 --> 01:32:35.670

BRENDAK: are treating police officer from its kinda know the pain, it goes in personnel file understand the police de de de Su.

599

01:32:36.480 --> 01:32:47.130

BRENDAK: But what we're talking about how do we stop people who, for no reason believe that they can kill black people without being held accountable that's what that the accountability talk.

600

01:32:48.210 --> 01:32:56.010

BRENDAK: Any any any any order pursuant to the demonstration that was that's what they were saying black lives matter will not stand it oh.

601

01:32:56.340 --> 01:33:03.930

BRENDAK: Police night, you know when they come in our Community need to know how to talk to us, we need to know how to behave to keep from getting killed the same time.

602

01:33:04.890 --> 01:33:15.810

BRENDAK: it's been happening for years and years, and the only way we're going to resolve it, they have accountability, I have looked over most of the municipalities.

603

01:33:17.280 --> 01:33:21.900

BRENDAK: police reform, and I have none of them that have accountability for police murder.

604

01:33:23.190 --> 01:33:35.730

BRENDAK: How do we solve that I think that we solve it by looking at something that the board, and when I look at the order, it has two parts there's police police reform and police reinvention.

605

01:33:37.140 --> 01:33:45.270

BRENDAK: Is my argument that he was directed to different agency to do different things police reform, he could he could require employees.

606

01:33:46.380 --> 01:34:00.330

BRENDAK: They enforce laws and, lastly, if you want to be trained up to code because i'm the chief forceful I don't believe he had the right to decide who's a to you as ability or you can make loans hold these people accountable for murder.

607

01:34:01.500 --> 01:34:09.630

BRENDAK: I don't think he said that, but he could say let's reinvent I can force you to reinvent by saying to you if you don't reinvent we got to take your money.

608

01:34:10.650 --> 01:34:28.290

BRENDAK: And I ran a venture we're called to me, I think that mean that you can go in and act local laws and any police officer that in part by those in Boston who commits a crime, a criminal act, a who was alleged committed a murder is this.

609

01:34:29.370 --> 01:34:30.270

BRENDAK: suspend without.

610

01:34:31.650 --> 01:34:43.110

BRENDAK: Until the investigation, though doesn't take domino legislation is within your jurisdiction and he takes the person who kind of building, you also could say well indemnification for.

611

01:34:44.850 --> 01:34:48.750

BRENDAK: But you don't have a DEMO five people who commit criminal act.

612

01:34:50.400 --> 01:34:56.550

BRENDAK: I think, Donald trump is on like we can't do that it doesn't work you have to have a real the law.

613

01:34:57.360 --> 01:35:11.010

BRENDAK: I have when I was in naacp we had to go up with the bills paid and people people's da that was accused of cursing out a resident of doing something that we didn't like jobs guy police officers.

614

01:35:12.090 --> 01:35:12.540

BRENDAK: are not.

615

01:35:13.860 --> 01:35:21.660

BRENDAK: exposed to that they can go out and commit acts and we'd say well we've got a police on, we have to identify, I think the activity.

616

01:35:23.130 --> 01:35:26.130

BRENDAK: Okay The other thing that this I don't want to go to for but.

617

01:35:27.570 --> 01:35:28.440

BRENDAK: I think that.

618

01:35:29.460 --> 01:35:29.640

The.

619

01:35:30.660 --> 01:35:32.040

BRENDAK: matrix and the village.

620

01:35:33.270 --> 01:35:36.300

BRENDAK: Should research, why did it have.

621

01:35:37.710 --> 01:35:38.580

BRENDAK: police reform.

622

01:35:39.660 --> 01:35:40.860

BRENDAK: And please reinvention.

623

01:35:41.880 --> 01:35:43.830

BRENDAK: and not without reinvention having a pie.

624

01:35:44.880 --> 01:35:46.500

BRENDAK: I think the reinvention was.

625

01:35:48.060 --> 01:35:51.750

BRENDAK: A directed to the municipalities to enact low.

626

01:35:52.950 --> 01:36:02.640

BRENDAK: To build personal accountability for people to commit crimes people heard about police officer miss kinda I haven't heard in a this form about people who commit murder.

627

01:36:03.900 --> 01:36:16.140

BRENDAK: I haven't What did you do about a perfect get murdered on shane about who we know and how good the police officer police out the friend, but i've also had police officer come in today, it means new car.

628

01:36:17.400 --> 01:36:23.040

BRENDAK: That was saying about everyday police as about people who is on the police force that commit murder.

629

01:36:24.750 --> 01:36:29.640

BRENDAK: and murder people and just so happen people black man, but.

630

01:36:31.170 --> 01:36:49.230

BRENDAK: We don't have white people getting back to the murder it doesn't happen either say but it's also, at the same time let's not be afraid to look at the fact the fact that this law, the intent of this one was to make sure that we get away to stop a murder black.

631

01:36:50.430 --> 01:36:58.320

BRENDAK: Water the address to say why we need to look at ISIS, we need to look at other things, those are issues that matter to me and the everybody.

632

01:36:59.790 --> 01:37:07.800

BRENDAK: But it appears that every time we need legislation for black man, it becomes some other general class and it's taken away.

633

01:37:09.540 --> 01:37:11.190

BRENDAK: it's crazy to me.

634

01:37:12.660 --> 01:37:15.870

BRENDAK: To have a law they were written.

635

01:37:16.890 --> 01:37:19.260

BRENDAK: And in the law says to stakeholders.

636

01:37:20.280 --> 01:37:22.230

BRENDAK: should be involved in the very beginning.

637

01:37:23.400 --> 01:37:26.910

BRENDAK: That you don't have a black people involved and creating the path.

638

01:37:29.310 --> 01:37:31.350

BRENDAK: Because I don't care what nobody say.

639

01:37:32.490 --> 01:37:46.410

BRENDAK: I grew up in a race as part of the southern guy I come from North Carolina where ratio, there was a normal either for police officer come up Hill, you know bad quality deal that was in the 50s and 60s shouldn't be that way and 2000 and.

640

01:37:48.270 --> 01:38:03.030

BRENDAK: We gotta stop believing and creating different platforms that doesn't solve the problem it's nice to have all these committees, and we had all these people talking about what happened, but nobody can tell me how I feel when I see somebody get home.

641

01:38:04.470 --> 01:38:07.890

BRENDAK: And they go home to their family and they laugh, they say.

642

01:38:09.480 --> 01:38:10.200

BRENDAK: he deserved it.

643

01:38:11.430 --> 01:38:18.870

BRENDAK: ain't worried about until we say to this country we don't feel what the other person is that you commit murder you going to be.

644

01:38:20.220 --> 01:38:21.270

BRENDAK: An add on here that here.

645

01:38:22.410 --> 01:38:29.190

BRENDAK: is talking about police training and upgraded 20th century pollution like I said when Chris Malone guy killed new village.

646

01:38:30.210 --> 01:38:44.280

BRENDAK: We had all these things anything you're talking it's not different in Australia, every time this happened we hire know the matrix we have companies they go in and do police training consultation.

647

01:38:45.150 --> 01:38:52.560

BRENDAK: That deals with Okay, this is how you can upgrade please probably get more money or whatever it is, but we haven't had anybody go in and come up with.

648

01:38:53.010 --> 01:39:02.760

BRENDAK: We need to solve the solution by all the people who commit crime accounts i'm just wondering, is it possible that you can look at both ends of that.

649

01:39:04.020 --> 01:39:04.560

BRENDAK: Reform.

650

01:39:06.120 --> 01:39:09.600

BRENDAK: One I think is directed toward the police do with us controller.

651

01:39:10.740 --> 01:39:14.490

BRENDAK: And you can help police reform which internal accountability and.

652

01:39:16.620 --> 01:39:27.480

BRENDAK: You can have it when those of ordinary and all the municipality and Union contract and dollars per se it's not and we can go it can do it, you can write long standing up.

653

01:39:28.230 --> 01:39:44.610

BRENDAK: Any contract me with the bills his voice when is it a criminal act and ball, or whatever you lose your protection builders Dana w village book or right, you know say to state to state approval, we do have That way we have we don't look at me know and.

654

01:39:47.760 --> 01:39:56.700

BRENDAK: So everybody can you know you can talk about all these day, we need to do to twist and formulate To start with, you have a non that.

655

01:39:57.300 --> 01:40:10.050

BRENDAK: is dealing with it with basic Internet law, which is just the murder back on gossamer i'm not saying they're saying stop all Mirko somebody justify.

656

01:40:10.620 --> 01:40:24.240

BRENDAK: We have many times and like I said I lived it I don't have to read in the book what happened i'm been threatened by police are almost being killed by police just because I had a nice looking car.

657

01:40:27.090 --> 01:40:29.640

BRENDAK: i've been threatened by the police, people in jail for years.

658

01:40:31.020 --> 01:40:37.920

BRENDAK: If I didn't do so, so is something that black men face this particular to black.

659

01:40:39.060 --> 01:40:45.180

BRENDAK: And you can be on all the group and and we have support from everybody, yes I love that.

660

01:40:45.810 --> 01:40:52.290

BRENDAK: But you ask a question, how is the Ward in your House how about what you don't want to know you don't want to take a bath.

661

01:40:52.770 --> 01:41:12.000

BRENDAK: Sometimes you got to act with people who are very effective, but to get in and give you input, so you can create the process I think what the village lost me is doing it says aka the bus and then we're gonna let you hear some input in, and then we will accept it or not.

662

01:41:13.050 --> 01:41:18.600

BRENDAK: I met with mayor garcetti the first time before oldest daughter naacp.

663

01:41:19.740 --> 01:41:22.410

BRENDAK: They hadn't even told us to create a plan.

664

01:41:23.460 --> 01:41:27.270

BRENDAK: And we went in and told him listen we're just making us a call.

665

01:41:28.290 --> 01:41:29.670

BRENDAK: We want to be involved.

666

01:41:30.870 --> 01:41:38.010

BRENDAK: So it's not the we came in late, and now we want to change we tried to get in early and we were denied.

667

01:41:39.390 --> 01:41:48.300

BRENDAK: So I would hope that you will look at the good things they look at invention and tell me why would they put be investing in that if it didn't know.

668

01:41:49.350 --> 01:41:57.660

BRENDAK: I know people tell me what reinvention that just a name, not what my stuff is in its original fun so see if that's the way that you can input.

669

01:41:58.170 --> 01:42:06.360

BRENDAK: Get input to how we can help them, and this will probably do that part and this policeman put everything on a deep because the team.

670

01:42:07.170 --> 01:42:19.440

BRENDAK: is going to do a policy and stuff like that accountability has to come from you, and you have to be willing to enact laws it's gone home how criminal murder murder us accountable.

671

01:42:20.520 --> 01:42:42.180

Omar Lopez: Thank you Jerry Thank you, I really appreciate your comments and I do laying out the history and your experience we're going to be considering all of that, now as we move forward with the plane, so thank you very much for your comments Jamie if you can bring on the next person, please.

672

01:42:43.110 --> 01:42:44.880

Jaimie Hoffman: Absolutely trustee okay.

673

01:42:48.510 --> 01:43:06.150

Jaimie Hoffman: i'm going to take you out Mr Smith pitch back into the attendee list, and then I am bringing over 827560704 and then row I will be bringing you over after that and then i'll give me a good son and then Patricia again, which we did invite her to come back after.

674

01:43:07.500 --> 01:43:15.750

Jaimie Hoffman: Other comments, so I believe, with Patricia if other comments come in, we may come back to you after since you did already have an opportunity, but i'll let.

675

01:43:16.440 --> 01:43:25.020

Jaimie Hoffman: Tracy Lopez make that decision Okay, so at seven you're coming over now please introduce yourself and give you a relationship to the village sonny Thank you so much.

676

01:43:26.520 --> 01:43:28.410

Jaimie Hoffman: Also, I asked you unmute please.

677

01:43:29.490 --> 01:43:30.000

Jaimie Hoffman: you're here.

678

01:43:31.500 --> 01:43:32.100

Jaimie Hoffman: Each seven.

679

01:43:36.180 --> 01:43:37.200

Jaimie Hoffman: i'll give you another minute.

680

01:43:43.380 --> 01:43:51.840

Jaimie Hoffman: alrighty Okay, so he seven you might have stepped away if you want I won't put your hand down but i'm going to move you back over for the sake of time and bring rollover Thank you.

681

01:43:54.060 --> 01:44:01.710

Jaimie Hoffman: Okay row, you are coming on over if you can also introduce yourself and give your relationship to Austin I would appreciate it, thank you.

682

01:44:02.880 --> 01:44:04.230

Jaimie Hoffman: ro if you can unmute please.

683

01:44:04.290 --> 01:44:05.400

Jaimie Hoffman: Thank you, I see you.

684

01:44:06.300 --> 01:44:06.630

ro: Thank you.

685

01:44:07.260 --> 01:44:07.800

Jaimie Hoffman: No problem, sir.

686

01:44:08.670 --> 01:44:23.550

ro: hi my name is row Moran I am a village Member I was also a part of the working committee I I think it's no secret that I haven't been.

687

01:44:25.560 --> 01:44:45.870

ro: impressed with this process, I really haven't enjoyed being a part of the committee, because I felt that a new lack of communication, transparency and clarity, which I think is something that we keep on hearing a lot um I I, I think that one thing that's incredibly important to.

688

01:44:46.890 --> 01:44:54.480

ro: To understand the process and I think that this should have been on the village to really put out there and I don't think that they have is the same thing that your main said earlier.

689

01:44:54.900 --> 01:45:07.920

ro: Which is the fact that this process isn't to punish our police department right this process is if to hold them accountable for things they've done yes we've had you know unfortunate.

690

01:45:09.120 --> 01:45:13.560

ro: Cases of police violence in the past, but right now, you know I love our police department.

691

01:45:13.920 --> 01:45:22.770

ro: I like a police chief and I, like everything that they're doing, I think that doing good work, but we really want to be able to set up a process that is going to prevent.

692

01:45:23.280 --> 01:45:31.800

ro: me from the track any tragedies, like the ones that we've seen in the past occur so that's what the working committee really set out to do.

693

01:45:32.460 --> 01:45:41.580

ro: um, but I feel that that you know that bomb should have been diffused that this process is completely authentic this process is just to ensure that.

694

01:45:42.150 --> 01:45:51.300

ro: You know, black men black women brown men and women, especially black men and women can go down the streets and feel completely safe because right now, they don't.

695

01:45:51.870 --> 01:46:05.430

ro: They don't feel safe and it's not because our police department is a faulty one it's not because they're out to get people but it's just because unfortunately that's the way that people see police departments across the country because.

696

01:46:06.960 --> 01:46:12.000

ro: Many of the people like Mr Smith just said, many people have unfortunately been.

697

01:46:14.040 --> 01:46:23.610

ro: Victims of police violence in the back and that creek and in the past and that creates some sort of trauma, yes, this process should have included more black men.

698

01:46:24.570 --> 01:46:30.270

ro: From the beginning, Omar your weren't included in that, because you are the police's boss.

699

01:46:30.990 --> 01:46:41.730

ro: right as one of the Commissioners there it's a very different story it's a lot of people like Kendall like your main like Mr Smith that should have been there and sharing their stories about what happened.

700

01:46:42.900 --> 01:46:50.580

ro: so that people can take notice and people understand why this is important um I also want to say that.

701

01:46:51.360 --> 01:47:03.330

ro: When I mentioned the lack of clarity, lack of communication process the timelines that as a Community, as a committee we were giving we're never quite clear and and.

702

01:47:04.320 --> 01:47:10.740

ro: I know I can be slow, sometimes, but I don't think it's just me feeling this I think it's a whole committee that has felt this at some point.

703

01:47:11.160 --> 01:47:29.220

ro: um and and we were always working against a very, very difficult timeline and then I felt like this, because the lack of communication and clarity was always successful baited in that made it difficult, so we did a there was a draft that went out that's available in the pub on the website.

704

01:47:30.480 --> 01:47:44.190

ro: You know that's not a draft that we were able to look at and before it went out that draft as as hard work and as great as Richard has been and matrix has been in this process, I don't believe that that draft.

705

01:47:45.030 --> 01:47:52.350

ro: in and of itself is completely anti racist, which is what this policy was just everything that should be here should be anti racist and I don't feel that.

706

01:47:52.680 --> 01:48:06.450

ro: That we do a good enough job putting that out there uh we weren't able to look at a lot of policies, we were unable to look at the pva contract were able to look at a lot of things before that draft one out, which is the reason why the committee.

707

01:48:07.740 --> 01:48:10.590

ro: has been continuing to work even after we were.

708

01:48:11.760 --> 01:48:13.980

ro: You know, told us told that our tenure.

709

01:48:15.090 --> 01:48:21.870

ro: In this committee was over, we have continued to meet and work together and go through this and we did draft.

710

01:48:23.490 --> 01:48:29.460

ro: Another version of the draft that we feel is a little bit inclusive to what we were trying to say and what we thought.

711

01:48:30.600 --> 01:48:42.690

ro: Those included a lot of feedback that we had from jermaine and a lot of the black men that we talked to and that you talk to, it also includes a lot of the language that we had from meeting with young.

712

01:48:43.170 --> 01:48:51.390

ro: Persons on high school students and everything, so it does include, for example, indemnity and talking about indemnity and the fact that.

713

01:48:51.630 --> 01:48:56.070

ro: You know most a lot of police department has crossed the country like miss Leah said earlier.

714

01:48:56.430 --> 01:49:02.760

ro: A lot of these police departments are tackling indemnity in a way that if someone is found guilty, then you have to pay back all the money.

715

01:49:03.000 --> 01:49:08.130

ro: That you know legal counsel and everything that they recovered, you know that is something, because that holds people accountable.

716

01:49:08.550 --> 01:49:17.160

ro: It also talks about a lot of people that don't have a lot of kids especially that don't really understand the role of the sro officers in the police.

717

01:49:17.460 --> 01:49:25.800

ro: In their schools, and you know they actually don't feel comfortable and don't feel that we should be an sro in the schools and it just a lot more.

718

01:49:26.640 --> 01:49:33.870

ro: Anti racist language, and not only anti racist language but more intersection language, because there is an intersection ality that comes in.

719

01:49:34.590 --> 01:49:38.820

ro: comes here as well, you know, one of the big contentious things that has been.

720

01:49:39.360 --> 01:49:49.260

ro: talked about a lot is ace ace ace you know what's the role of ice police, you know one thing that's incredibly important to notice is that black immigrants.

721

01:49:50.010 --> 01:49:57.720

ro: are more prone to be attacked, yes I use the word attacks to use the word have to be attacked by ice.

722

01:49:58.530 --> 01:50:07.020

ro: than other other populations, you know if you have you know black endurance suffer more at the hands of ice than a you know.

723

01:50:07.380 --> 01:50:17.310

ro: Other hundred and that's important so there's an interesting intersection ality that is very important here in the language and we wanted to make sure that that was noted, so I do.

724

01:50:18.660 --> 01:50:19.200

ro: urge.

725

01:50:20.340 --> 01:50:22.800

ro: Yes, I do urge the.

726

01:50:24.240 --> 01:50:36.480

ro: board to I asked you this and and I did hear from from from mayor 11 that you are looking at the draft that that we sent out and including that in your thoughts and everything.

727

01:50:37.440 --> 01:50:43.680

ro: I think this should be shared with the Community, I think it should be something that's available to be out there is something.

728

01:50:44.040 --> 01:50:57.000

ro: But I think that people should look at this and also see that this was the other language, because that's transparency, I think that's what people need to see because a lot of the things that have mentioned, we tried we tackled in that draft we.

729

01:50:58.770 --> 01:51:05.940

ro: In the conduct Committee and the Committee we joined this process because we feel incredibly incredibly passionate about this project.

730

01:51:06.210 --> 01:51:17.880

ro: Because we have been affected by this, or we love someone that has been affected by this, and we just really care about this and the process has been really, really, really frustrating and the village.

731

01:51:19.980 --> 01:51:32.700

ro: should be helping us create this process and make it easier and make it safer and make it more inclusive and make sure that we are tackling things that we're setting out to tackle and I don't feel like that's.

732

01:51:33.360 --> 01:51:50.100

ro: happening right now, so I do urge that this that this other version that this things that we mentioned, especially when it comes to indemnity sro etc that should be included with the Community because it's very important and it's really the words that we were trying to put forth as.

733

01:51:51.210 --> 01:51:55.860

ro: Community Members as volunteers and your municipality, thank you.

734

01:51:57.360 --> 01:52:04.680

Omar Lopez: Thank you ro appreciate your thoughts there I two things that I would say, and then i'll also open it up, if anyone else.

735

01:52:06.060 --> 01:52:13.740

Omar Lopez: From the board wants to react to that, but I was actually a piece of housekeeping before I get to my comments so it's 1153 we have.

736

01:52:14.220 --> 01:52:26.490

Omar Lopez: Three people now with their hands raised and other we're aiming to end this at around noon, so what i'd like to do is to let's try 8271 more time to see if they are around.

737

01:52:26.940 --> 01:52:39.600

Omar Lopez: let's go to house lady after that, because Patricia do get a chance to speak, and then I Dana if you can choose one or two comments from the Q amp a to ramp up with, and then we'll.

738

01:52:40.680 --> 01:52:43.800

Omar Lopez: Do our closing remarks so row.

739

01:52:45.810 --> 01:52:46.860

Omar Lopez: So row.

740

01:52:48.390 --> 01:52:56.490

Omar Lopez: The two things one i'm the version of the report to that that you and the rest of the.

741

01:52:57.600 --> 01:53:05.340

Omar Lopez: folks on the working committee because it was a subsection of the working committee that sent to this kind of edited version, yes, we definitely are.

742

01:53:06.450 --> 01:53:11.280

Omar Lopez: engaging with it as a border we're looking at every single one of those recommendations I got on the phone with.

743

01:53:11.970 --> 01:53:22.620

Omar Lopez: Jennifer cover recently to go through them in detail as well to understand from from her perspective her understanding of what I you all were thinking with each one of these.

744

01:53:22.950 --> 01:53:34.680

Omar Lopez: Also, recognizing the fact that there were 18 people on the working committee and this represents that the edits of a subsection of those, and so we don't want to send.

745

01:53:36.240 --> 01:53:44.520

Omar Lopez: Unclear messaging to the Community, that the version that you all sent is the new working committee drafts version of it because.

746

01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:49.920

ro: let's be clear, oh my that also when we talk about that the other people that weren't present where.

747

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ro: The district attorney and other Councils that never came to the meetings and other police officers that also.

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ro: were probably not the most excited to be part of this process so let's also be clear that that's what happened here the people that.

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ro: That that that did help the draft of this were Community Members who were it's also a either somebody that held the position of position police officers or you know legal.

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ro: representatives that never showed up yes.

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Omar Lopez: I totally I totally receive that.

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Omar Lopez: So, and I think that's that's part of when we're talking about who should be on committees like this part of it is not just what do they look like what are they identify as but also will they be engaged.

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Omar Lopez: Because we need folks to be engaged in the process, not just to be there on paper.

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Omar Lopez: But the larger point is that I know that the substance of what you're writing is going to be engaged with the board, whether or not we end up posting it on the website, for example, or something like that.

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Omar Lopez: i'm know that substance of it is going to be engaged with by the board as we're making these various recommendations so that's number one.

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Omar Lopez: And number two is with respect to the lack of clarity around timelines and process and all that I want to make something very, very clear.

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Omar Lopez: The buck stops with me, I am the person on the board that has been from.

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Omar Lopez: The beginning involved in this process, and if there's anybody that is responsible for lack of clarity around timelines or process, it is my fault now I am part of a team, there are many other people that have been involved with this.

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Omar Lopez: But, ultimately, if you feel like I there wasn't a clear sense of what should have been going on, that should have been on me to learn, I can do better, when I know better, and now that I know better, this being I month to have year two of my.

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Omar Lopez: job here is as a trustee know that any other time that i'm working on any other engagement.

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Omar Lopez: Whether it's we just finished, a lot of the comprehensive plan we have the parking diet coming up, whatever it is.

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Omar Lopez: I want to make it super clear what the process and timeline for these things look like, because now, I see what happens when we don't but people on the working committee get frustrated the Community gets frustrated.

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Omar Lopez: it's super super important early on, to have a really clear.

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Omar Lopez: process map for exactly what's going to happen who's going to do it when it's going to happen, and so, know that the lesson has been learned the message has been received.

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Omar Lopez: i'm sorry that you've had the experience that you have and know that I, as a leader will work for that not to be repeated again.

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Omar Lopez: I Those are the two comments i'll open it up to the rest of the board if they wanted to say something I believe that mayor loving, you are on as a panelist if you wanted to unmute yourself and say something.

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Rika Levin: Thanks I lost.

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Rika Levin: I lost it there for a while, so I appreciate it, and I have to drive.

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Rika Levin: At this moment, but I think i'm clear and you can hear me.

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Rika Levin: OK so number one, this is a first for really everybody, this is an unusual executive order is not something that anybody had a great experiences and because our the trustees are often.

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Rika Levin: described before it seemed to us and I may be the only state that went this way, but I think it was the right way to test the hiring consultants is a third party that has expertise with police matters.

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Rika Levin: And we put an rfp out so that was the first month to gather that information would allow the committee to have total rain total freedom without any boundaries.

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Rika Levin: Nothing to about justice because I could imagine a world in which we would be sitting today and people say well you know you guys ran this and your village staff ran everything and it was your attorney that worked on it and so really this plan isn't really a public.

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Rika Levin: Work it's really been yours all along, so we have to balance, and I would do it all over again, by the way, we have to balance giving absolutely no boundaries to committee of volunteers.

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Rika Levin: That would come back to the two board members and say listen these five people are never showing up or they're barely showing up or derailing us.

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Rika Levin: etc, and anything else, that they would have done, but it's the first for all of us, not just the Members who sit on this working committee.

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Rika Levin: it's not that we haven't had working committees folks we some of you who have sat on the downtown and you sit on one of the dozen boards that we have a we appoint.

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Rika Levin: that's not really the issue, the issue is that it was totally it's a no boundaries, with a purpose and that purpose is not.

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Rika Levin: To create a path for people, but let them find their own path and come to say this is what's important to us, this is what we want you to focus on these are the things we want on.

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Rika Levin: In retrospect, but 2020 hindsight, there were a couple of things, so I know we're hearing them loud and clear today the frustrations of certainly for me didn't become clear to last month.

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Rika Levin: Maybe we should have had more milestones in the process, maybe if it weren't really the first executive order of its kind in probably who knows how long we would have been more experiencing.

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Rika Levin: Having added all that up I gotta tell you I do sit on to other communities one a large city like new Rochelle and i've been tuning into.

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Rika Levin: Their equivalent of this which are doing very differently, and also to peekskill a couple of times, which also has been done a quite differently to get a sense of what's out there.

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Rika Levin: Not to domains point and he's right like we set our own bar, but to have some sort of.

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Rika Levin: A sense of what's out there that's all it's a sense of what are others doing I spoke to the mayor's from both of those communities, again, one being very large and one being more our side, both highly diverse communities.

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Rika Levin: To get a sense of we on the right track honestly row IQ frustration you wrote me an email I try my best to answer them all, I I hear.

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Rika Levin: That you want it to be better, but the reality is the plan that you all put together this with the updates I don't think the revisions, I think you added a few more things, those are updates i'm.

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Rika Levin: Actually, really, in my humble opinion, a really great job in a very limited time and it's a very, very short time period for all involved.

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Rika Levin: Some communities that a single survey a couple hundred people responded communities, origin or is that was it they're done.

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Rika Levin: We went deeper because we're interested Secondly, I want to point out so i'm sorry about the feeling about the process but somehow.

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Rika Levin: You produced a great product, in my opinion, with some very serious issues that go well beyond the village.

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Rika Levin: Issues they go deep into issues that are really on a national scale, and I mean that, in a very positive way.

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Rika Levin: um but that I think that's a good thing and something for us to think about I stated that in the beginning, that we're taking some of those that are outside of our jurisdiction and we'll take it to the people whose job.

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Rika Levin: It is within one great example which has not been discussed is, for example.

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Rika Levin: idea came out of this that we should be talking to the police academy and making and bringing recommendations for how they're doing their training.

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Rika Levin: I would have myself never thought of it, but it came out of committee work, and it may not be a big bullet on the presentation that we saw earlier.

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Rika Levin: But for me it's one of the big statements and I think we can influence that that's like a big idea and that's an important idea it's a long.

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Rika Levin: Sustainable idea, over time, so I think that's something to consider.

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Rika Levin: i'm not really litigating whether it was exactly the right 18 people it's never exactly the right people on any committee we appoint we get feedback, you know this person never shows up.

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Rika Levin: This person does all the work you should never pointed this person why this.

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Rika Levin: You know it's we just get better at it, the more we serve but it's never exactly what everybody thinks it should be it's really hard to represent.

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Rika Levin: Everybody on these time limited, and I also on a personal note, Omar, I appreciate you taking the brunt of commentary that.

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Rika Levin: I I personally think is just coming from a place of great fashion and That to me is what frustration is everybody in the community wanted to do more.

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Rika Levin: But the entire Board was involved in it, most of us, except for Dana white were on the board last year when the mayor made for appointments.

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Rika Levin: You know we're we're all in this together, we actually all live in this Community, and our intention is nothing short of wanting to do the best that we can.

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Rika Levin: And I think that's recognized, we want to include the police, we want to include all of our neighbors we want to include our own knowledge of what is happening, so I don't think that Omar, you need to take it.

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Rika Levin: I think that everybody here has the right, intention and this is not a one time shot it's not legislation that the government fast that's not the kind of executive order that says.

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Rika Levin: He can't pass this it's all done at the local municipality level, and we are going to put a plan together we're going to share it were discussing it this week, once a week after the week after that.

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Rika Levin: All these meetings are publicly viewable that was recorded and I hope to come up with a great plan and, by the way, that plan will go on April 1 and on April 2 we're going to start again and say.

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Rika Levin: Where are we going to go and what do we need to do, going forward it's intuitive it's not a once and done deal, I just wanted to add that I.

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Rika Levin: I consider the board of team so that's sort of my final word on that and I appreciate the work being done here today as well, thanks.

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Omar Lopez: Thank you mayor jb.

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Jaimie Hoffman: Yes, okay so i'm going to give.

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Jaimie Hoffman: Let me just do one thing here Okay, so I am going to put 827560 back in, and then the.

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Jaimie Hoffman: Has libby i'm so sorry i'm not very good at pronouncing names so you're coming back over at seven will give you about a couple beats to unmute yourself and then, if not we'll go back into our QA Thank you.

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Jaimie Hoffman: at seven if you can please unmute and tell us your relationship with us winning.

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827 560 704: This a call from Linda.

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Jaimie Hoffman: i'm sorry.

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827 560 704: I don't know who you're trying to reach I had my hand raised, my name is Linda.

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Jaimie Hoffman: Yes, Linda you're you're listed as a 2756.

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Jaimie Hoffman: you're ready to go just tell us.

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Jaimie Hoffman: and

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Jaimie Hoffman: Thank you.

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Jaimie Hoffman: You have the floor.

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827 560 704: Okay, thank you, Robin i'll call you back okay.

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827 560 704: All right, I have been going over all of the the recommendations on very interested in this process, I had been on earlier, I am concerned with as, as others have we're actually looking at accountability and cultural issues regarding the.

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827 560 704: Regarding police reform as far as the recommendations go i'm interested in knowing if there is a criteria that's going to be used for passing forward those recommendations that can.

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827 560 704: be passed easily, there are many that i'm interested in, but I believe that they are going to involve.

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827 560 704: Approval by the pva or.

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827 560 704: By by State law, such as the.

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827 560 704: The the holding police responsible rather than municipalities.

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827 560 704: Giving.

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827 560 704: Civilian review board subpoena power and making a change of having only civilians on the civilian policed to reform Committee, I wonder if you could briefly.

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827 560 704: respond to that I want, I also want the Community to know that that that many of these recommendations for accountability are not handled at a.

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827 560 704: municipal level and for the sake of transparency, they need to know what the Community can pass and what is going to need action outside the municipality.

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827 560 704: Thank you.

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Omar Lopez: Thank you very much, I appreciate those comments so.

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Omar Lopez: This actually goes back to something that the mayor mentioned at the very beginning of our time together today, which was that there are some recommendations that are outside of the jurisdiction of the village.

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Omar Lopez: But they don't last the village trustees may feel like are important for the state to know that the Community has proposed and so we'd want.

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Omar Lopez: to let those different whether it's county or state or federal to know what it is that those recommendations are so we're going to be including an identity, at the end of.

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Omar Lopez: This report that has a set of recommendations that are in addition to the ones that the village will be moving forward that are.

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Omar Lopez: Both for ones that are outside of the jurisdiction of the village, but also recommendations that maybe the village board at this point doesn't feel like I it's ready to pass it doesn't have three trustees or two trustees and the mayor.

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Omar Lopez: In supportive it yet, but it will be included as an addendum for future boards to be able to consider.

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827 560 704: Oh, my if I could make it, I think it would be just to get ahead of this, it would be.

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827 560 704: A positive thing to let the Community know what what will rather than as an agenda, because I think some of these issues for police accountability are.

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827 560 704: are so demanded that you let the Community know upfront that they will need to go outside the municipality so they're not waiting for you.

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827 560 704: To to do something or is they know that it's going to be handled outside the municipality, rather than they're thinking it's something that you know the the Community.

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827 560 704: is demanding but it's not something that you can take care of just so that they they know that and are not wondering well how come, you know we can put together an alternative Intervention Team or How come we can change how the the civilian review board is.

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827 560 704: It together, I just.

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827 560 704: I think i'm.

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Rika Levin: gonna be doing that, but.

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Rika Levin: Okay, that will be part of what we put out there, we will put the affirmations we will put some declarations, we will say.

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Rika Levin: This is a phenomenal idea just not within our purview Okay, it goes to a state level it's done at this level it's done at that level so that people do have an understanding that there are things we think are good ideas we just can't vote on them that's Okay, thank you.

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827 560 704: For your point exactly 100% I just I just know that that these are these are things that sound sound like they're important to you I don't want them to to be buried, I would like them, just to be out front that's that's all i'm saying.

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Richard Brady: Can can matrix make a quick comment here about this, because I think it relates to.

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Richard Brady: What we do with a draft report in finalizing it and taking all of this input that we received into public meetings and the other forms of input we've had, including the great work that people have done and actually revising report.

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Richard Brady: One of the major improvement areas that we need to make as part of this is more implementation guidance now certainly this process does not stop when you.

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Richard Brady: submit the report to the state on April 1 the implementation process is going to go on for an extensive period, depending upon the recommendations and.

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Richard Brady: Because this is really a starting point for the whole thing, but one of the things that we need to do is describe.

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Richard Brady: What that implementation process is going to look like.

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Richard Brady: In general, as well as for a specific recommendations, some of these things are going to be easy and short term if you accept them, some of them are going to be difficult and long term in will take other processes to.

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Richard Brady: Implement, for example, as has been brought up collective bargaining agreement potential changes to New York State law.

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Richard Brady: Inner local agreements with other entities, so this needs to be spelled out in terms of the degree of difficulty and the external processes that need to be put forward, but again.

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Richard Brady: I just need to put again the point that this is a starting processes as a set of policy statements and an initial step, but the implementation process will be on a start on April, the second.

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827 560 704: I mean, I appreciate the clarity, thank you very much, and thank you all for your time and for an end to the community at large to participating in this.

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Jaimie Hoffman: Thank you, Linda i'm going to.

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Jaimie Hoffman: Take out move you over.

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Rika Levin: we're gonna go.

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Jaimie Hoffman: i'm speaking, right now, so I just want to finish the list here because I don't know if you can see it from where you are right now trustee Lopez um do you would you like, for me to go to has has bleep i'm so sorry I didn't.

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Jaimie Hoffman: get enough.

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Jaimie Hoffman: Thank you, or would you like to go to the questions I know that.

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Jaimie Hoffman: This person has been waiting a little while do you mind if we bring them over.

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Omar Lopez: we've been waiting a little while, so I.

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Dana White: Please bring her over she has typed a question so.

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Jaimie Hoffman: Okay, no problem.

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Dana White: He has typed.

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Omar Lopez: Okay, go ahead.

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Jaimie Hoffman: Okay, you can unmute yourself Now I know that you were unable to unmute yourself, when you are in the attendee list, but you should be able to speak now.

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Jaimie Hoffman: Can you tell us your relationship to ossining and give us your name and such Thank you so much, and i'm sorry if I just did not pronounce your name correctly.

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Hasbleidy Gaenslen: No worries, my name is.

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Hasbleidy Gaenslen: And i'm a resident.

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Jaimie Hoffman: yeah.

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Hasbleidy Gaenslen: i'm sorry I said, my name is has lady dancin and i'm a resident of briarcliff Manor, but I also form part of the police reform in my community.

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Hasbleidy Gaenslen: I had a question in regards more to the this is more to the local government can the local government commit to writing resolutions on hot topic items like immigration use of force and account and police accountability, you know I think this will set the.

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Hasbleidy Gaenslen: i'm done.

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Omar Lopez: I was waiting, could you repeat the very last night, what do you say, I think it will set the tone and then it got cut off.

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Hasbleidy Gaenslen: The tone and culture of the Community.

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Omar Lopez: God, I thank you, so this is something that historically I the village has done with respect to certain issues you take, for example, the green light law like.

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Omar Lopez: Giving the ability for folks to get driver's licenses irrespective of their immigration status the board.

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Omar Lopez: handful of years ago, wrote it wrote a resolution in favor of that legislation, so this is something that the Board has done, historically and.

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Omar Lopez: i'm confident will do in the future it doesn't do it for every piece of legislation at every level by it is something that with respect to the makeup of the Board whomever is on there and and kind of what is going on, will continue to do moving forward, so thank you Dana questions from.

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Dana White: yeah we have about 28 questions and comments i'm going to i've been going in order i'm going to ask a question from someone who hasn't.

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Omar Lopez: been heard yet shoddy didn't get going, if I can just pause you super quick, so I just want you to process comment on, so what happened during the first.

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Omar Lopez: engagement that we had two weeks ago, and what will happen next week as well is, although we had 90 minutes for this last week as well we.

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Omar Lopez: Two weeks ago, we extended two hours we're now at two hours 15 minutes um I my sense is that it will take much more time.

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Omar Lopez: To go through all the questions of what we did last time was we I picked a point at which we would stop taking new questions, it will we just named, these are the one or two final questions that was around noon.

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Omar Lopez: Two weeks ago, and the rest of the questions that are unanswered we're going to be saving and we're going to be considering those equally with the questions that were asked in person, so.

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Omar Lopez: Richard Brady for matrix and the Board is aware they all they are seeing all the questions and comments in the Q amp a none of them are wasted, even if not all of them, not all of them are red so with that if you could.

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Omar Lopez: Please go ahead, you know.

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Dana White: shouting is a resident in ossining he asked, can you give specific examples of how the police interact or engage positively on a daily basis in Austin.

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Omar Lopez: Sure, so this is something that.

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Omar Lopez: has come up at a number of public engagement.

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Omar Lopez: Events that we've had the one that the mayor mentioned.

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Omar Lopez: That we had a few weeks ago with black men, specifically, some of it is through events that they have some of it is through.

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Omar Lopez: I just community policing engagement that have happened I tactics in the past, one of the things that officers used to do, for example, they is going door to door in the Community, not to every single person, but in I.

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Omar Lopez: do try to get a sampling of different parts of the Community, introducing themselves to Community members letting them know who they are now one of the things that I.

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Omar Lopez: Officers do, for example, is, we have a Spanish language officer that runs a Facebook page that gives updates to the Spanish language community on what's going on it's those kinds of things.

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Omar Lopez: Formally happening from a programming perspective that helped to bring.

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Omar Lopez: positive relationship with the police, so that the Community is seeing the police, not in a moment of stress, but in a moment, where they can get to know them.

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Omar Lopez: And then, in addition to that, there are individual police officers that form relationships with members of the Community, but this is something that the chief has championed from his started about five years ago and it goes from before that, as well okay next question Dana.

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Dana White: um so pastor Sean Jones comments that he was on the working committee to I believe in respect to communication with.

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Dana White: The Community we must be mindful that there is a digital divide, with much of our settings residents and I know lemon all.

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Dana White: emphasizes that perhaps we need a Mailer program in order to reach people who aren't online Nicholas Lopez, would like to know how he joined the civilian police review board um How does that I think we answered that.

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Omar Lopez: Did we did yes it's on on the website, but get involved page on the website now.

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Omar Lopez: There aren't any openings on the CPC rb, but that is how you can indicate your interest for a future board so one of the things if you go on right now.

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Omar Lopez: I, what would the Board is doing is reviewing all the applications that have come in, in the past few weeks and months, and then we're opening it back up.

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Omar Lopez: So that any openings that we have on current boards, I can be filled with folks that are indicating their interests but recognize that, that is, that is the place to go to indicate your interest.

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Dana White: um we have an anonymous attendee who says the executive order two or three is Tu Tu parte order, as I understand.

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Dana White: One part deals with reform and other words training and the like, and the second part deals with policy change the rfp agreement with the facilitator completely omits policy change.

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Dana White: policy change deals with accountability, would you add policy change to the final draft was so little time.

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Omar Lopez: So I would argue, respectfully to this anonymous person that policy has been a key part of this process from the beginning we've both had our Subcommittee focused on policy and recognition throughout.

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Omar Lopez: In a lot of these are policy changes, these are not just cultural changes or suggestions, but specifically changes in policy and so.

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Omar Lopez: I know that Richard nodding his head, it seems like he agrees and so Dana we can move on to the next question.

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Dana White: Okay laurie Sullivan us, is it put a mechanism in place to report police misconduct that includes an anonymous Ombudsman like avenue, that does not require the person to present themselves to the police department resident of 25 years.

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Omar Lopez: that's helpful, so this is not something and Richard if this has come up before I please let me know this is not something that has come up as an idea before, but if this is in line with the kinds of.

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Omar Lopez: rethinking of how police complaints should be made so specifically in the recommendations, whether it's I forget, is the evidence the current ones, are the ones that.

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Omar Lopez: row and others have sent but, including the ability to send recommended complaints online to do so in a way that's as easy as possible, I think one of the things that we're also balancing is what are ways to do so in a way that is going to.

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Omar Lopez: not cause unexpected consequences so.

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Omar Lopez: If we have anonymous complaints or complaints that are going to result in police officers being accused of things that they.

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Omar Lopez: They didn't do and that's going to be part of their file, you know there's a kind of.

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Omar Lopez: thoughtfulness and needs to go with respect to a lot of these changes similarly with if we do something like an ombudsman, that is something we have to consider one of the benefits and drawbacks or something like that.

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Omar Lopez: What problem is it looking to solve, but I will put that in the suite of changes with respect to how one makes a complaint to the police department, all of which is under consideration.

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Richard Brady: Then I would I would add to that or that it's it's there are a number of suggested recommendations relating to facilitating the ability to make a complaint either anonymously online.

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Richard Brady: directly to an expanded role for the CPC rb but the other important part is that, after that greater transparency about that those greater number of complaints being reviewed by the cpr be being made to the public.

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Rika Levin: Thank you right.

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Rika Levin: I want to add the topic of complaints we got stuck on anonymous if you take the word anonymous.

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Rika Levin: Which is one element of it, some of the complaints that people want to know about and how to report or not a disciplinary once the serious want, but you know behavior.

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Rika Levin: You know attitude etc so we're taking that in as well because that's something we have learned through this process, you know just they're sort of customer facing in some way or public facing, and I think.

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Rika Levin: That is the topic that's also being put into the bucket called you know how does one.

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Omar Lopez: It seems like the mayor was cut off at the end, but I think we got the spirit of what she was saying thank you mayor data.

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Dana White: um i've had several people comment that they would like to see the draft that row mentioned in some form, I have a couple of.

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Dana White: comments and questions about Chris Malone Aaron more rights, I understand this was 1998 and incident, I believe it was 1998.

943

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Dana White: I understand that Malone, was shot six to 10 times that being true, why does it take 10 shots to subdue any individual and then Diana lemon.

944

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Dana White: Comments um the Community needs to be clear about our Community narrative, we need to make sure nothing like Chris Malone ever happens again in our Community like what also happened to George floyd that's me speaking past president of the naacp okay.

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Omar Lopez: Thank you Dana so with respect to the plan that rowan others have produced so I can speak to the board to see if it makes sense to in some form or fashion.

946

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Omar Lopez: to publish that under the very clear headline of here or recommendations from a subsection of the.

947

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Omar Lopez: working committee and because of that the Community would like to see it I don't think there's any problem with the Community, seeing it I just.

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Omar Lopez: want to make it very, very clear that this is a set of recommendations coming not from the entire working committee because I think that's where the communication may get lost and the question is, with respect to Mr Malone.

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Omar Lopez: All those points are well received, I don't think anyone here is in a position to relitigate that particular case, but I just know that.

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Omar Lopez: That has been brought up before I matrix a particular is aware of that case and incorporating it into the kind of recommendations were making, and we appreciate the comments Dana.

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Dana White: Giuliana would like to reiterate the importance of getting police officers out of schools, I think it creates hostile and unsafe conditions for students, and I know that constitutionally.

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Dana White: Police Officers don't actually have an obligation to protect folks unless they are in their custody so i'm not really sure Why are there, they are there to begin with.

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Dana White: um.

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Dana White: I was I lost my Internet I think you might have addressed some of this when I was out but.

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Dana White: I think this is Is this something the board a bad would need to address.

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I don't.

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Omar Lopez: Know man.

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Rika Levin: I was going to say it's one of my questions for Wednesday, the chief of polices also speaking I think on Wednesday in front of the Board and in a session.

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Rika Levin: You know, with some of the comments he also has about the the plan and the draft, and this is one of the questions I posted him to get a better understanding of.

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Rika Levin: The relationship with police and schooling, which has come up in new Rochelle and peekskill and other communities as well, so it's a topic.

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Rika Levin: that's come up in a number of conversations around the county but the board of it also, I think, absolutely should have input into that and and let us have that input.

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Dana White: Okay we're almost done.

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Dana White: allison mckenney would like to know if the matrix PowerPoint is available online somewhere.

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Omar Lopez: yeah So if you go to the police reinvention page if you go to the village of ossining org scroll all the way to the bottom and click on.

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Omar Lopez: The police reinvention I forget exactly what it's called but it click on that and then you'll find it right and police reform revenge and collaborative you'll find it there.

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Dana White: i'm June Carver says there's a problem with follow up process of applications for the board um i'm not sure which, for the civilian review board possibly I sent in an application never received a response, how are these applications reviewed and following up on.

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Omar Lopez: Thank you yeah So this was brought to my attention from a process perspective, we need to communicate with all the people that have already submitted applications and.

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Omar Lopez: Then moving forward open it up for new folks that are indicating their interest, and so we will be updating folks in the next week or so.

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Dana White: Okay i'm going to end by reading a comment from john saltzman.

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Dana White: ossining branch naacp executive committee Member.

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Dana White: I personally am concerned that the critique offered by jermaine Jerry and row.

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Dana White: have not been effectively heard by the village their comments are troubling the issue of accountability is at the heart of change in behavior.

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Dana White: The issue of appropriate Community representation is troubling as Jerry presented unvarnished.

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Dana White: Is that the consequence of killing murdering black people cannot be considered without clear personal consequence Union contract notwithstanding.

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Dana White: changes need to be seriously considered having served on other Austin citizen committees, there is clearly a pattern of sidelining their recommendations.

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Dana White: Yes, trustees need to create an effective process and the core issue of police behavior and police accountability must be seriously included and the village Board must engage policy changes to the mayor's point it's not about doing more it's about doing the right thing.

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Omar Lopez: Thank you john I hear you underscoring those points made by jermaine Jerry and row message received.

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Omar Lopez: So i'm we're going to be saving the rest of the comments here, I have come in, after that point.

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Omar Lopez: For the record, and sending them to matrix i'll finish with some concluding words and then we'll hand it to the Mayor and any other folks on the board.

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Omar Lopez: or Richard or staff who would like to conclude, as well, I just want to say thank you, thank you to vie at its peak nearly 60 people who were.

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Omar Lopez: Part of this conversation and still 46 brave souls here two and a half hours later, thank you very much for your engagement, for your serious thought for your.

982

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Omar Lopez: vulnerability throughout this process, this is not easy stuff to talk about and.

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Omar Lopez: These are not easy changes to make and we love our Community that's why we are here.

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Omar Lopez: We really appreciate the time and energy and effort that you put into this, and so, for first of all, all the spectators all the i'd say it's better than the name that i'm seeing on.

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Omar Lopez: All the Community members that are here, thank you really appreciate you to all the folks who are on the staff, I am I fellow trustees Thank you i'm eager for next week's session, which will be in Spanish so i'll hand it to the mirror now.

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Rika Levin: i'm going to ECHO almost words and also my, thank you for moderating a list of this Omar was chosen for a couple of reasons, one of which he's the longest standing Member of this.

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Rika Levin: Of this, so working committee on behalf of the board, it is a really important topic to us, I appreciate everybody it doesn't end here.

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Rika Levin: anybody can mail their thoughts comments feedback new ideas that they thought about the minute we signed up today to vlt at village of ossining.org if you want to speak to each of us, we read all of our emails we respond as soon as we can either by ourselves, on behalf of the board.

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Rika Levin: And I appreciate, also the staff members that have been with us on our attorney who has been.

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Omar Lopez: It seems like we may have lost the mayor.

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Omar Lopez: By there was a lot of gratitude coming from the mayor, thank you, thank you mayor 11 and the other board members, I would like to speak.

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Dana White: i'd like to say something i'm I am new uh i'm coming into this of January one um but I, I know that some of this, especially for people on the working committee.

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Dana White: They had access, a lot of inner emotions and past traumas to do this, I want to acknowledge that we appreciate their courage and that I personally am going to do everything I can to make sure we come up with.

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Dana White: Something that we hand in on on April, one that can produce meaningful change, thank you.

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Omar Lopez: Bob remaining.

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Bob Fritsche: yeah just I mean I call the mayor's IMAC oh i'm not gonna repeat everything but I echo everything and we were looking to put forward what we can.

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Bob Fritsche: On April 1 so i'm going to just not go everything again many.

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Manuel R. Quezada: as well.

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Manuel R. Quezada: Thanks Omar Dana mirror 11 as well, and I wanted to thank.

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Manuel R. Quezada: Our Community members for coming out today obviously as we've said, this is something that.

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Manuel R. Quezada: Obviously, we have a deadline, as it was mentioned by the thing that's something that is going to be on April 1 and that's something that I will ask the Community to always get engaged always be participant of that we cannot do our job without your feedback.

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Manuel R. Quezada: So that's something that I had always as not just for this, but I think in general, we are representative of the Community, we are elected by the Community to represent you.

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Manuel R. Quezada: So without your feedback positive or negative, I think, is always helpful for us to understand the struggles and the pluses you know there's pros and cons for everything, and I think that's.

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Manuel R. Quezada: that's what we are here, the father was to to put that into a balance into a perspective.

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Manuel R. Quezada: That is suitable for our community in what is that look like in what is now me, so I want to thank everyone that actually participate on this.

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Manuel R. Quezada: And we are still going to have a couple more one more session after that, but that doesn't mean we're going to stop getting feedback from from you, so please.

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Manuel R. Quezada: email us try to reach out to us, they may already said beauty village of awesome in that org.

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Manuel R. Quezada: Please keep in touch we we actually going to have a deeper conversation on this issue, as was mentioned on a work session on Wednesday, the pva is going to be there are police chief is going to be there um you know so just you know, keep keep.

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Manuel R. Quezada: Keep watching our meetings and keep you know you you comments come into ourselves, and thanks Omar from one area in this at this process today.

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Omar Lopez: Thank you so.

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Omar Lopez: With that I originally had our friends from matrix did you have anything to say.

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Richard Brady: i'm sure i'll always take up that opportunity.

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Richard Brady: Thank you, Mr well I do want to thank the participants in this meeting here today, and everything has been done in providing input throughout the process, and since since we've developed the draft report.

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Richard Brady: Through this month and, of course, I want to thank the mayor you Omar, as well as Dana and Jamie for making this report happened, so I want to just make one quick statement, and that is.

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Richard Brady: The purpose of this whole effort should not just be to meet the needs of.

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Richard Brady: reporting back to the State and to a threat, you certainly have to do that, but it's to develop a plan for policing for the future that is unique and appropriate for ossining.

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Richard Brady: Today everything we've been involved with and the Community since we started.

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Richard Brady: Back in late fall has contributed to that and will result in the board, making a report to the state but result in something that will be a living plan that will start on April, the second that will hopefully be supported by the Community, thank you.

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Omar Lopez: Thank you, Richard Thank you.

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Omar Lopez: Thank you everyone for your time, energy and effort will be seeing you next week at 10am and it's by noon, thank you very much.

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