Video & Transcript: Ossining DPW Site Redevelopment ENGAGEMENT SERIES: Greening our Waterfront
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Rika Levin: Good morning, everybody today Saturday the 13th of February, we are delighted to have some guests.
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Rika Levin: From consultants and developer, to discuss the what we call the dp w site, which is an initiative, the village, has taken on to look at mixed affordable housing units in what is currently being used.
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Rika Levin: By the village it sits near the waterfront, which is important to this conversation as the topic of this session and we've had a number of them, the topic of this session is focused on.
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Rika Levin: Public engagement regarding environmental issues, clearly, if you're joining us today, and you have other questions, please do feel free to ask we've just tried to create a series of sessions that deal with different topics, so that we can actually.
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Rika Levin: delve deeper into the public's questions we have also since we've last met for those of you that are following us have also added a faq frequently asked questions so that you can go on those and see some of the previous sessions questions i'm.
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Rika Levin: curated in a way that bundles a whole bunch of questions that are most asked, we are going to have, I think i'm assistant village manager maddie I believed today.
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Rika Levin: If you have a question was the presentation is complete, if you have questions raise your hand.
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Rika Levin: And we will bring you in so that if you want to be seen you you take your video off if you don't want to that's fine we do ask that, since this is a village of ossining project that you let us know.
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Rika Levin: What your relationship is to the village, whether you live here or work here.
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Rika Levin: Have a business here or just have an interest, so we do appreciate that and i'm just trying to see who's on that I need to specifically talk about there was an addition, last night.
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Rika Levin: I do not know if all of the board members had a chance to see the presentation, it was delivered to us for no no special reason it was just that.
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Rika Levin: It was delivered last night I got to look at it very briefly, this morning, so we may or may not be able to answer some of your questions.
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Rika Levin: And immediately, and I see that we have most of the Board here for out of the five board members are with us today, I think we can get started with the presentation I believe i'm turning it over to village manager Karen dettori good morning Karen.
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Karen Dattore: The morning Thank you mayor the morning everyone, thank you for joining me see we're getting more kenny's as as this meeting is starting welcome everybody, we are now going to provide a brief presentation that really details.
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Karen Dattore: The preservation of green space or increase access to green space at the site, as well as.
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Karen Dattore: The green and sustainable components of the project itself and with that i'd like to turn it over to our director of planning Jaime Martinez, who will be joined by members of the Walter Walter team to talk about the.
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Karen Dattore: aspects of the building and then we will gauge them and entertain any questions or comments you may have, thank you.
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Jaime Martinez: Good morning, everybody and so just you know first good morning off to the public it's here and good morning to all my colleagues that are here for this presentation, I think this is our.
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Jaime Martinez: Fourth presentation at this point so covering a lot of new details every single time and so excited to bring this this new level which is going to talk about as the sales manager mentioned.
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Jaime Martinez: The Green aspects of this project to the greening of the greenway itself the building itself, but also some of the resiliency from climate change and sea level rise, so let me get right into that.
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Jaime Martinez: and
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Jaime Martinez: i'm going to share my screen.
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Jaime Martinez: And so just let me know if there's any issues with lag or if there's any issues with the screen so that make sure everybody can see it.
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Jaime Martinez: So first you know we try to start off all these presentations with a little bit of recap.
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Jaime Martinez: We do know that you know there's a lot of the same people that are coming to these meetings, but there are new people coming every time, so we want to make sure that.
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Jaime Martinez: We at least give you an opportunity to hear the top line notes about the project, so you know a little bit about the site itself it's a 3.4 acre site bounded by water street.
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Jaime Martinez: Main Street seeker road and central avenue and the site is traversed by the sink seen kill, it is a contaminated brownfield site, because it was used from the 1850s all the way up into the 1940s as a coal, gas plant by multiple entities, the final entity being kind of.
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Jaime Martinez: Who owned it at the very end, and it is subject to consent order by the New York State Department of environment cards conservation with con Edison.
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Jaime Martinez: So this is a look at what it actually looked that look like many, many years ago.
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Jaime Martinez: I think trustee way can say the exact year of this photo, but I want to say was the early 1900s.
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Jaime Martinez: Well, you mean you're muted.
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Dana White: 1930.
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Jaime Martinez: yeah Okay, so you can see kind of the gold the coal and gas plants and the heavy heavy industrial nature of the site.
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Jaime Martinez: they're.
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Dana White: All waterfront was heavily industrial yeah.
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Jaime Martinez: This is what the site looks like now there's some of those sheds on the southern end of the site or actually gone, but the dp w buildings on the North side of the killer still there.
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Jaime Martinez: And the rest is pretty much remains the same kind of a site that was formerly heavily you know occupied and has very little left.
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Jaime Martinez: So the proposed use is a mixed use building which we have 109 residential units with a range of affordability from 30% to 80% as.
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Jaime Martinez: The extension of the sinks even kill greenway through the site onto water street is one of the major components of this project we're going to talk about that today.
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Jaime Martinez: And there's also a parking garage for residents with potential for an additional level of municipal parking to be built by the developer.
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Jaime Martinez: And this is kind of the close up look of what it what it looks like so.
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Jaime Martinez: So you know we're talking about the site, one of the big concerns that's come up is is this site really.
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Jaime Martinez: able to be built on we have you know issues of sea level rise, we have issues of climate change, and there has been a lot of concern expressed about whether we should be building on this site.
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Jaime Martinez: or other sites in the waterfront, and so it was important for us to really go through and figure out.
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Jaime Martinez: You know what was going on with the site as a part of this rfp process and make sure that the developer understood.
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Jaime Martinez: The future impact of climate change, so this site is located in the lower line area of the village and many of you i'm sure will remember that during superstorm sandy part of the site wasn't inundated with water in the area near the bridge also.
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Jaime Martinez: cornell prepared a climate adaptive design studio and it brought many of these concerns to the for for the Community talking about how we could develop and in a climate adaptive way along the waterfront.
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Jaime Martinez: So when preparing the proposal the building engineer start with a baseline of the proposed fema flood maps, so there are approved fema flood maps they're a little old they so they started with the proposed ones, which are.
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Jaime Martinez: considered have more time of change, on top of that, they layered 30 inch sea level rise and further considered 100 year storm under that 30 MC the kitchen and that's sort of the baseline where they started and try to figure out how that would be built out.
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Jaime Martinez: Some of the components of this, the environmentally sustainable components of this project are that it is being designed to meet leed gold standards of sustainable construction designed.
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Jaime Martinez: To ensure environmental sustainability is central to the development and it's also going to incorporate electrical electric vehicle charging stations in put in the public garage as well as an electrical vehicle car sharing program for the.
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Jaime Martinez: Residents of the building and so a little bit about that climate adapt decide this is the look book, so if any of you've gotten a chance to look at it, this is.
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Jaime Martinez: showing some of the designs and for the.
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Jaime Martinez: You know the sea level rise, one of the big things that people in the Community of expresses you know talking about those cornell numbers that were used by that look book, these are those numbers that you get from Columbia it fit into the cornell adaptive design.
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Jaime Martinez: You can actually go to the website build out, you know 30 inch sea level rise like I did hear 100 year storm like I did here, you can run the numbers see visualized here.
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Jaime Martinez: And for the purposes of like the engineer, you can download the data and integrate that data into you know your architectural drawings or your GIs maps.
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Jaime Martinez: You want to see that's here at the Hudson river flood impact decision support system, and you can you can find online you just Google it it's it's very, very interesting.
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Rika Levin: I didn't.
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Jaime Martinez: I didn't hear what you said i'm sorry.
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Rika Levin: hi Mate, what does that blue dotted line i'm sorry i'm just not seeing it clearly what does that mean.
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Jaime Martinez: Mine is bear the.
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Jaime Martinez: waters edges and so that's you know, a rendered thing from the beta that they have obviously the aerial photography will show it a little different.
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Jaime Martinez: there's lidar data and so there's tons of different data sets that feed into this, so when you see that line it's not exact.
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Jaime Martinez: it's not exact because more than likely, it was drawn from a map that looked at a huge you know very drawn out area that didn't zoom right into them to the Community it's pretty good but not perfect and that's why these systems are made as guides to help.
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Jaime Martinez: You know review things right, so I I guess you can take it to consider westchester county has two foot contours and they're pretty good in general.
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Jaime Martinez: When you're looking at large areas, but when you want it to go, and you know, develop a small little parcel for House you still have to do a survey of that site.
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Jaime Martinez: to figure out exactly where those punches are because the generalized stupid contours are for all of westchester county and they're not specific to every single square foot that's what this is here okay.
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Rika Levin: Thank you.
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Jaime Martinez: So the greenway designs were so this is actually the part of the section we're going to hear from the the designers of this, so I don't want to take up too much time but a little context to this, the original construction of the sink sink kill greenway.
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Jaime Martinez: When it was built always anticipated that they would eventually you know, try to build it under that arch and through the pw site and onto water street.
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Jaime Martinez: It wasn't something that could be done at that time, but it was always considered a part of it, and because of that it was it was made a key component of the rfu and now it's essential component of the post about by this developer.
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Jaime Martinez: So with that i'm going to hand it over to Maxwell out of.
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Jaime Martinez: You know I don't want to say, the name is I always forget it.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): I wonder bell can you hear me.
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Jaime Martinez: I or blender bell yes.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): Great thanks so much thanks good morning everyone, so my name is Maxwell but i'm i'm an architect or designer and a partner right buyer Belinda bell in New York City.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): Where a 53 year old firm and some of you might know us from our work on.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): Many, many building topology such as landmarks like grand central terminal, but we also do a lot of mixed use ground up developments of various skills across the region.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): We are the master planners and architects for this site and our underlying approach.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): To all of our projects is that the architecture and planning needs to be contemporary and site specific right, so we find opportunities within each site and building Program.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): to design architecture that's authentic to a place and to build upon it's real and potential strengths so for us here in ossining.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): You know, we were immediately attracted to the potential of the site and the physical challenges that it poses so I thought, what might be useful, and I know most of you probably know, the site very well, I thought it might be useful to just.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): Re take a look at the drone video and share some of the our initial observations as well, so hi maybe you wouldn't mind starting to drone video.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): Great Thank you so you know what attracted us initially the site when I first heard about, it was the obviously the unique qualities.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): Of the site being adjacent to mass transit you know the short walk in the train station and then, when we got to the site, we would walk there say we.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): quickly realized that you know the the physical imposition of the site and it's challenging type.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): topology it's going to be really interesting for this site, you know this, of course, included the sink sink kill, you know which runs right through the middle of the site sort of splitting the site into two halves.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): You know, to the sort of incredibly industrial character in history of the western half of the site with dp w of buildings.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): And then, of course, as you sort of make your way eastward in the site this sort of incredible natural preserved right, you know this sort of stark contrast.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): That was very interesting to us of this contrast between the sort of natural preserve and sort of developed a dp w portion of the site.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): You know, and then, as we walk through the site, you know we also were fortunate to experience this sort of gem of this linear open spaces, of course, your riverwalk.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): On that just ended North and across the street from this site, and of course the villages intent to extend it through the site, so you know all of these elements I think for us.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): which existed, you know both on and sort of directly around our site.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): Despite the regularity and physical constraints of the site, you know we really felt that this site holds the key to unlocking an important connection and place making opportunity.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): You know, right in the heart of the village right so that was sort of important for us home the takeaway for us when we visited the site and we went back to our office and kind of thought about what how we would plan a master plan the site.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): Okay, so so let's start with this first image here, which is sort of just the context plan so from a site planning perspective.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): For us really you know we felt that this site was the gateway into the village and between the waterfront and village and vice versa.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): And from an open space perspective, you know, we agreed that it was important to turn this existing various or closed off site into something much more porous and much more open to the public.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): And that the site could be purposeful as an extension of the village where people would be able to come in they'd be welcomed and experience the canal way the waterway that kill.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): As on the western and as well as experienced the natural you know forested area to the east.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): And, and that, rather than being mutually exclusive, in terms of development and the open space, but the the actual reinforce each other and kind of built off of each other, so we thought that was really, really important and real opportunity here.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): You know also that you know the context drove how we thought about the site as well how we mass the buildings of a building design relates to the open space typography the streets.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): in fostering movement through the site, you know, in fact, we saw the greenway extension through the site and the kill coming through the site.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): really has a huge huge advantage to the development because it allowed the buildings to have a frontage and a public face on the kill and i'll show you what what I mean by that in a few slides.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): So let's go to the next slide amy So these are just some photos you know, of course, these were taking not in the winter, so you know when we got there.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): it's very different obviously the winter and when there's foliage on the trees and you can really kind of see, so this is amazing contrast and it's amazing sort of.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): Natural preservatives on the eastern end of the site, so the top left photo is just you know, an image is correct, closer to water street with the kill, and so the.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): deteriorating walls along the kill the top right photo is sort of the more natural condition of the kill coming through the site.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): The bottom left photo is view looking East towards Central avenue and the archway and the calico comes through it and, of course, the bottom right is the greenway, on the other side of the street, so the little bit of orientation their next slide please.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): So here's a the first floor plan, which I think I can use to kind of explain the overall master planning concept.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): You know, so the approach was to make the St St kilda typography and natural landscape of central feature of the project and to flank the either side of the kill with two buildings that rise up and.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): With the surrounding typography so we start with the building that's along central avenue, that is, the proposal garage.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): That sort of rises up along with the topography of central avenue, so the the building, you know it's sort of takes its place replacing the existing dw garage building.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): And, and that sort of rises up along with central avenue next to the garage you'll notice there's a proposed new fire lane that currently does not exist, the fire lane, of course, will serve the future.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): Access to both of the buildings but it's also in our minds in an all the other time of the day, you know, a pedestrian amenity right it's it's it's.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): An opportunity for people to experience and sinks and kill on both sides of it for us and then across the sinks and kill is the second building, which of course is the main mixed use building.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): Of the project and what we wanted to do here was to encourage a real active building presence along the entire canal frontage for the building, so we wanted to activate the canal bring people into the site.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): and using that frontage as as sort of a way to do that right so you'll see that we deliberately placed active uses along the front end so we start with retail at turns the corner from water street.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): turns a corner onto the sink sink kill right could which could be no Sir very open and very welcoming and sort of public face to the project.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): We then placed the lobby and some of the residential amenities sort of in the middle of the building block facing the kill, which again will provide 24 seven activity and eyes onto the onto the kill as well, and then.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): The last piece, which I think that's actually a very important piece is the Community space that we place on the eastern end of the building and.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): The decision to place it on the eastern end of the building was a very deliberate move.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): Really felt it was important to bring a public use as far and as deep into the site as possible right sort of at the transition zone between sort of the western part of the site.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): And the eastern sort of natural part of the site and it sort of for us felt like we were able to bring a more public news and the destination deeper into the site.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): With respect to the building on the South and the main building the mixed use building.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): We raised the entire building up above the preliminary female hundred year flood plain levels.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): And if it's a little bit hard to tell, but each of the spaces that fronts, the kill has a different elevation and it steps up as the kill moves towards the east as a kill certain steps up as well.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): So, as a result, the walkway that's sort of directly in front of our building between the kill and our building which i'm.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): Calling the problem, and now it will also be regraded right, so they will have a gentle slope that kind of slopes towards the east meeting at aes that everything's accessible site, but also provide access and barrier free access into each of these components of the building.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): You know the kill walls, as a result, will also be re engineered and rebuilt, which I think is an important part of this process as well.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): And all of these improvements, of course, will be engineered to not impact the existing capacity of this insane kill or the floodplain and, in fact, there is.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): A storm water retrofit project that's planned just south of the arch way to South central avenue, which would sort of expand.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): The the water reservoir there to improve water quality and help discipline flows from the upstream coming into our site so that's part of the stormwater.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): management on this entire site and then finally you'll notice, there is a new bridge connection that's between the garage and the Community space that we are proposing that will just cross.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): The kill, which serves two purposes, the first, is it provides a turnaround for the fire trucks if they.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): come in, they have to be able to come back out but actually What it does is provides a pedestrian connection between the garage and the Community space and also provides an ability to for you to actually loop around the 16 kill which we thought was really, really fine.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): The next slide, I believe, is the roof plan.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): Right so in terms of the overall site plan again all of the development is largely located at the Western end where the dp, who is currently are.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): And we're staying away from the steep slope areas which helps us preserve not only the natural landscape on the east but also.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): The natural landscape around us, particularly along Main Street as the street rises up towards the village.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): And then just keeping as much open space as possible to maintain the you know the naturally picture as quality of the site, while improving the heart scape on the western half of the kill.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): You know it's we noticed on sort of the early views you know the building also steps up from water street and each of these steps we are considering.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): placings portions of that as a green roofs and on the very top of the roof we're planning to have a photo of a tape array on the very top of the roof, which will get a really good sunlight and I think we would be very, very.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): Effective, so I think what we'll do now is be prepared a series of sort of still.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): Images as though sort of as a sequence, as though you're walking from central avenue and water street up towards the greenway extension, I thought, maybe that's sort of a good way to sort of three dimensionally see what this could feel like.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): These, of course, are going to be no very early conceptual sketches but hopefully it does give give you a sense of space and what we're thinking about in terms of materiality and scale and the field.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): In terms of what we're thinking about in terms of the initial design vision, so why don't we start with the with the first view.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): On the next line yep so well so apparently it's within a before and after and I think it's useful because it helps us have oriented where we're standing.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): So this is, you know the view from central avenue and water street across the site, you know the building on the left is the existing btw garage site.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): The kill is just behind the middle fence there on the towards the right of the image and then sort of the background is mainstream and quickly climbing up up towards the village in this view we updated the next slide.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): That sort of proposed view what that might look like from this vantage point right so again, you know.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): As we had previously discussed, you know we feel you know the architecture should be simple.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): But using materials that are found throughout the village right whether it's masonry or brick or metal or even some would be utilized in a way that provides a bit of a robustness the building design.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): Relating to sort of the industrial history of the site and heritage of the site.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): I also mentioned previously, about the setbacks on roofs that you kind of see that here on the main mixed use.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): towards the east again one or both of those rooms, may have a green roof components and the top of the roof, will have a polar vortex.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): Jaime mentioned that this building will be designed as a leed gold building So there are a number of critical sustainable elements that we will be planning for.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): Including the solar generation but also a very, very tight building envelope, this is of course not.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): All glass building, this is a building that's got punch windows and solids which would allow us to really enhance the thermal performance of the building.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): Along with other sustainable features like low flow fixtures and energy smart appliances and all of that stuff which you know we we put in all of our buildings now, and especially so in leed gold buildings, so the next slide is the view, if we were to cross the street.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): sort of right as you enter the site now right so uh right behind that fence there, you can see the sing sing kill and the and the, and the wall.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): On the left is the cpw garage and on the right, where it says no trespassing that's sort of where the new building is proposed on the right side, and if you go to the next slide get a sense of what this space can also feel like that what this open space can feel like.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): area right, so you know what we're seeing here is sort of the proposed view right So you see this, the same same kill coming through.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): What we've done here is we've recreated, as I mentioned before the promenade along the path of the sin sin kills so that it's raised up above the flood elevation.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): So it's a nice sort of gentle slope that slopes up as you move towards the east, the garage to the left with the fire lane, which is also a pedestrian path.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): And what you see directly on the right is that retail space, taking the retail space and we pushed it back a few feet, so that we've kind of widen the aperture as you enter the site.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): which we felt was really a nice way of creating a more inviting and engaging entryway coming into into the site, frankly, so that you also notice.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): The rebuilt walls along the canal way, and what we did here was we thought it was important if we're going to be rebuilding it let's raise it a few inches that's bring it up to about 18 inches above the.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): Ground plane, so that you can also create seating right so that it's not just a place where before walking by but it's a place where people can take stop you know grabbing coffee and have a seat of conversation, so it really I think becomes sort of a nicer communities face.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): That has a nice mixture of heart scape intoxicate and then, if we move further up so let's imagine this kind of walking a little bit further up sort of midway along the block this is sort of the view.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): Of where that location is on the left, right there, you can see, the wall of the sink sink kill just to the left of us, and then on the right is.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): sort of the dp dp w yard on the next slide shows what that could feel like sort of further along the canal, so this is really sort of right by the.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): entrance to the residential built on the right here the doors on the left, of course, is the canal way.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): you'll notice the bridge the new bridge that connects the two sides of the same same kill the garage on the on the left and just on the right sort of.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): On the other side of the bridge, but on the right that little glass Boxer that's the Community space right so again.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): You know, it was important for us, we thought it was important to place the Community space further in on the site, so we create sort of a beacon, and in a destination.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): For the public to go there and then even just beyond that you can capture a glimpse of the extension to the greenway which is sort of that little ramp like piece further just in the background of the image.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): And then the next slide so now imagine a sort of walking now beyond the buildings and into the natural preserve and again there's no intention to really modify anything in this in this area, other than to create an accessible path.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): So this year is an existing view, looking back towards Central avenue, you can see the archway supporting central avenue, and then the next few shows sort of an overlay of how that.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): can transform right with the greenway coming through the archway and landing itself on the eastern side of the sing sing kill.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): onto a pathway, which would then connect back to the prominent that we were just walking on previously so.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): You know I think this is really, really exciting, for us, you know as I, as I mentioned earlier, I think you know the greenway extension, the kill and the proposed building configurations.
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Maxwell Pau (BBB): You know, really formed the spine that ties together the entire master plan and helps reconnect the village and its waterfront that a pedestrian level, so thank you very much for your time and the opportunity for us to share these initial design contest with you.
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Rika Levin: hi me is there is this go back now to the presentation, or is that the end of the presentation.
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Jaime Martinez: or just a few more.
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Jaime Martinez: Great.
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Rika Levin: Thank you.
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Jaime Martinez: So just a real quick.
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Jaime Martinez: recap for the general public of the project timeline the approval does require multiple steps so first step, which has already been completed with the selection of a preferred developer at that point, if you go into the development of the land acquisition and disposition agreements.
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Jaime Martinez: and getting that sort of set forth and that's essentially what's going to be built there.
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Jaime Martinez: What the price will be, and so on and so forth, as well as the the Community engagement process, both of those items are currently ongoing this this meeting is one of the.
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Jaime Martinez: elements of that community engagement process after that process is completed move forward to potentially the approval of the ladder if the ladder was approved, it would then move on to the State environmental quality review at environmental review.
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Jaime Martinez: It would be.
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Jaime Martinez: referred out to the.
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Jaime Martinez: Villages Environmental Advisory Council would be referred out to the planning board for cycling approval and would also require another special permit.
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Jaime Martinez: approval from the board of trustees as well, as you know, once all that is completed and done if it does get to that point on the implementation of a lateral transfer of the property and the development of the project.
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Jaime Martinez: So the next steps for the communication process.
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Jaime Martinez: Are you know from the general public, this is your first time going to the meeting we want to hear about the previous meetings you can go to ask me the pw site calm and you can see videos of all the previous.
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Jaime Martinez: presentations that were made and we you know don't want you just to come to this one and go to the last ones, but also come check out the future ones, or we talked about different.
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Jaime Martinez: elements, you can find the schedule for all the feature dp w engagement meetings at the builder boss name.org forward slash awesome name hyphen dw hyphen site, or you just go to the Community calendar, and you can see it there.
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Jaime Martinez: And so the the very next meeting is going to be on February 25 at 7pm.
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Jaime Martinez: It says it's called dark matter it's going to be more focused on the brownfield component of this project and what it's doing to work on that and get kind of dig more into those details.
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Jaime Martinez: And you know with that we're going to open it up for questions, but we do want to hear more from you today and tomorrow and every day since.
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Jaime Martinez: So please do attend those future meetings, and if you have any questions that you want to email directly to the board of trustees and administration, you can email at plan at village of osteen.org with that I will hand it back over to the those venture.
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Karen Dattore: Thank you, Jaime Thank you Maxwell That was a very informative presentation, so I noticed that we have three hands up.
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Karen Dattore: i'm not sure what order, but I see roslyn Miguel Hernandez.
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Karen Dattore: And susie Ross so many can you start by bringing over.
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Karen Dattore: that's the order I have them in so.
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Karen Dattore: If you could get hurt by bringing roslyn sure.
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Maddi Zachacz: Sure thing rosalyn has not taken down her hand so i'm not sure if that was a mistake but Rosalind please feel free to raise your hand again, if indeed you do have a question.
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Maddi Zachacz: I am going to bring over Miguel Hernandez Mr Hernandez when you come in, please feel free to introduce yourself and give us your relationship to ask, please.
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Miguel Hern?ndez: Good morning um first of all I want to thank you for a very good presentation very clear very concise um I am I live in about I would say, a half a mile from this site and I traveled down the street, you know quite frequently on my way in and out of the village okay.
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Miguel Hern?ndez: My questions are very brief of one um I am concerned about the the impact that this project might have on the stream, as you may know, this stream.
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Miguel Hern?ndez: is affected by the tides of the Hudson river and it does in fact.
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Miguel Hern?ndez: flow in into the Hudson river, so one of the things that I believe will need to happen is in addition to all of the environmental is that.
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Miguel Hern?ndez: It requires the intervention it possibly requires the intervention of the army corps of engineers so um we did we have another project I won't go into it, that with extreme is impacted and it was under stream was not protected.
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Miguel Hern?ndez: Properly doing construction so far, but anyway, there will be whether it's during construction or after construction on that Stream does have to have a.
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Miguel Hern?ndez: have to be taken into consideration.
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Miguel Hern?ndez: And in regard to that this i'm wondering.
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Miguel Hern?ndez: What.
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Miguel Hern?ndez: Not geological archaeological studies have been made with regard to to the history of this site, I believe that, at one time, there will be for the.
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Miguel Hern?ndez: You know, back in the 19th century, before the gas tanks were put in there, that there was one or more arm mills.
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Miguel Hern?ndez: which would use the water of the stream to to power themselves i'm concerned about the archaeological study as well.
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Miguel Hern?ndez: One very minor thing is.
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Miguel Hern?ndez: I don't know if I particularly like the design of this building it looks kind of rather plain to me, but you know that's that's strictly a matter of taste, but i'm wondering if there are you know other designs that might.
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Miguel Hern?ndez: More more closely reflect the history of the village of this site okay that's not a big deal, but you know it's just something that i'm concerned with so with that.
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Miguel Hern?ndez: i'll let go and see if you have some answers for me now or later I do please Thank you.
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Karen Dattore: Thank you, Mr Hernandez for your first question I want to turn it over to our village engineer Paul fraley who I think and speak quite informative informative Lee about the.
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Karen Dattore: precautions and about the issues we're doing to protect the stream and enhance actually enhanced what's currently there so.
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Paul Fraioli: Thank you care morning.
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Paul Fraioli: i'd like to start by.
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Paul Fraioli: appreciating maxwell's further and so of what he presented when while they're boulder with finalist in the rfp selection it's nice to see what they talked about conceptually is really starting to take shape.
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Paul Fraioli: A lot of the components and Mr powers presentation or included as a requirement in the rfu for the development inclusive of.
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Paul Fraioli: The store mortar measures that were going to be implemented into the kill brooke trail so that's very nice to see we all appreciate that and I think I think you really.
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Paul Fraioli: You spot on with what you're what you're delivering conceptually now compared to what the village envisioned when they went out.
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Paul Fraioli: With an rfp for this project, so thank you for that I enjoyed that presentation that said, Mr Hernandez your concern with the storm water.
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Paul Fraioli: Pre and post construction, I guess, can best be answered by this when we originally.
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Paul Fraioli: undertook the kill brooke trail project.
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Paul Fraioli: A lot of that and storm water quality when we originally undertook that kill brooke trail project.
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Paul Fraioli: As you know, the kill brooke included a sanitary sewer line which was compromised in the kill brooke project was originally.
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Paul Fraioli: implemented to address the concerns with that sanitary line and obviously it grew into the the trail, that it is today the trail has a collateral benefit of bringing a lot of visual attention to the surrounding properties, I think, by default, that that.
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Paul Fraioli: That leads to what we did down there you gets the property owners to treat their properties, the same way and keeps a lot of the debris and formerly.
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Paul Fraioli: thrown over the edge property garbage into the kill brooke so between the removal of the sanitary inflow and infiltration and the refuse that was continually thrown into the kill brooke.
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Paul Fraioli: He kill brooke.
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Paul Fraioli: environment is much improved that mantra is going to continue under central avenue arch now on to this new property where.
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Paul Fraioli: Its present use, although we're very considerate of the stream in its presence use now that wasn't always the case, historically and its use, after this project is completed, I think, will.
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Paul Fraioli: benefit the stream immensely with regard to when ends up making its way in there from the surrounding properties.
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Paul Fraioli: The stormwater measures, including the reconstruction of the sidewalk some improvements to the headwall and, most importantly, which he just kind of briefly mentioned it, but the.
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Paul Fraioli: The upstream how call it the energy dissipation pond or whatever, where they ultimately design underneath the central avenue bridge is going to do a tremendous amount of.
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Paul Fraioli: Aid to the downhill culverts downstream culverts that run underneath the villages parking lot and the metro North railway.
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Paul Fraioli: That dissipation pond will ultimately be able to buy it's designed remove a lot of the flow double debris if there there's not much left in there now after the Cobra trail but there's going to be some that makes its way down the stream.
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Paul Fraioli: And it also will serve to remove a lot of the sediment that gets picked up during.
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Paul Fraioli: High storm flows and that will be something that ultimately will be monitored and maintained and do much to improve the downhill, I did it again the downstream.
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Paul Fraioli: impacts of storm water flow the.
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Paul Fraioli: The construction of the building that which was mentioned by high may early in the presentation included.
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Paul Fraioli: The use of the bullet pointed out the use of the new the new maps that are still yet to be adopted by fema which actually brings the building out of the floodplain.
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Paul Fraioli: Either even further than what is presently required on top of the fact that glad rich Williams, is on the phone with us to today on top of the hundred year flood plain.
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Paul Fraioli: calculation that they're using, so I think that um again they dressed every request for storm water and kill brooke.
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Paul Fraioli: design that we asked for an rfp obviously there's a lot of there's a lot more details that need to take this concept to a construction document.
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Paul Fraioli: But i'll use that as a as a segue to ask if Mr Williams from insight engineer who's while the boulder civil site engineer he wants to expand that any of that.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: Thanks Paul and good morning everyone i'm Mr Hernandez as as we do move from concept through construction our construction documents Walter Emily address both temporary construction conditions, as well as final build out.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: We will also be coordinating with numerous agencies beyond the village of ossining to scare on the started permits for that work.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: As you correctly identified army corps may be one of those agencies and just to touch on the onsite storm water, you know currently there is no storm water treatment and everything discharges into.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: The sink sink kill as part of our design plans we will be improving, some water quality, you heard magical mentioned.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: Green roofs as well as some other storm water improvements that will be integrating into the storm water pollution prevention plan, all these various improvements should help and will help improve water quality within sinks and kill.
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Jaime Martinez: It and I want to just quickly add in here that a lot of these really site specific questions that need to be handled are handled at the planning board level.
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Jaime Martinez: so that you know when site plan approval goes forward there has to be much more rich and developed.
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Jaime Martinez: You know schematic drawings that have given out that that helped get to that decision and that's a public process where people can come out and comment.
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Jaime Martinez: So the plans that you're going to be you saw today don't really have the full level of detail on that and that's that's just because of where we are in the process.
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Jaime Martinez: In the process, and therefore.
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Jaime Martinez: That will be coming down the road.
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Rika Levin: I can add something please sorry um it's a listening session, but I have to say me go i'm so happy to see you on this call it's been so long since i've seen you i've gotta say hi to you.
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Rika Levin: hi i'm and tam and and i'm not asking you to participate fully in this process i'm going to almost have to order you to be very involved in this your insight into the history of this village.
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Rika Levin: I don't want to say compete so Dana that's not polite but with the two of you being involved your question about archaeology never even occurred to me I haven't even heard that, as part of the conversation I think it's important His story.
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Rika Levin: You live right up the road from there, so I am imploring you to take the time and really look at these presentations and be highly involved I think most of us.
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Rika Levin: know you and we know how much you care about this community and i'm expecting to really hear from you negative and positive it's all good, because I think there is absolute 100% intention to have.
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Rika Levin: The best product at the end of all this, for this property there's no question in my mind that that is the ultimate goal so looking forward to seeing you on more of the zooms.
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Dana White: i'd like to second that and i'd also like to say miguel's knowledge local history for up cases mine.
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Rika Levin: same thing.
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Karen Dattore: I do want to address.
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Karen Dattore: The Stern, and is your your comment about the architectural I mean i'm sorry the archaeological issues so so one of the issues that we know we have with with the things until over time, is that you know as as the the village has evolved and grown and so much of that history.
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Karen Dattore: is really has been really relegated history so opening up the site and being conscious of that really gives us an opportunity to shine a light on that history, and I would like to defer to trust you white to talk about some of the aspects of that since she was our former village historian.
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Dana White: um.
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Dana White: Well, I have no doubt that we're probably mills there that used the you know the rushing water of the of the kill the power their their water wheels I can look back at old maps and and see if anything shows up there's not much pretty.
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Dana White: um there may be some renderings somewhere, but there were certainly mills upstream by the where the Community Center is now, and you can see old millstones in the in the water um so my feeling is that.
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Dana White: that there can be a lot of care taken that if anything was discovered that could be a remnant or evidence of that that it's retained left or, in some way preserved i'm hard to say what may turn up archaeology archaeologically.
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Dana White: You know, if you want to go back to Ancient peoples, I have no doubt, this was a.
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Dana White: That the indigenous peoples were settled along this area, unfortunately.
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Dana White: All remnants of them are confined to pieces of pottery things you may know, is it is it out of the question that something like that comes up no it's not out of the questions.
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Dana White: So it's certainly something that.
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Dana White: That.
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Dana White: I think, can we can be very sensitive to I know I can, and we know Miguel, we know you are as well, so we agree on that so.
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Miguel Hern?ndez: Oh i'm just saying that may be a study about that should be included in this plan, I you know it, it is costly Of course I don't know I don't know the cost but.
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Miguel Hern?ndez: You need somebody who is an expert in that area i'm not you know archaeologically trained on.
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Miguel Hern?ndez: Other historical trending but archaeology is not one of them, but I think that's something that we should be part of it, so that we know what's there, and you know, maybe there is nothing there, but perhaps some.
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Miguel Hern?ndez: If there are any random events remnants then certainly they should be saved or or memorialized in some way.
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Miguel Hern?ndez: And if I could just take one more second I know you're quite busy, and you need to get on and there are other people, but um.
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Miguel Hern?ndez: I had made a suggestion, a while back that we that the the grinding wheels that are up further and the stream from the file factory should be taken out of the water and put.
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Miguel Hern?ndez: near the near the site with some kind of signage indicating you know what they are, because the more they just stay in the water.
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Miguel Hern?ndez: The more floods will destroy them and they may be totally gone so I believe that there are three or four grinding wheels from the.
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Miguel Hern?ndez: From the old file factory up there, and maybe something could be done about those that's not you know, for you to decide now but i'm just saying that's the kind of thing that we need to look at Okay, thank you.
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Karen Dattore: Thank you, Mr Hernandez just to wrap this up, because there is actually a regulatory process that does.
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Karen Dattore: take into consideration, historic use of the properties that are being developed what may have happened with indigenous cultures on these properties, many years ago, so I would like to just have bill balter talk a little bit about what is known as the ship oh process okay.
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Bill Balter: hi so as a part of this process, especially relating to the funding from New York state they require us to get called ship oh clearance, which is a state historic preservation office.
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Bill Balter: So we'll hire a cultural resource consultant as we've done in any developments, most recently in tarrytown.
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Bill Balter: Where they basically studied the history of the site that such as Mr, and this is talking about, and then they basically.
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Bill Balter: suggest what needs to be further studied, if anything, on this side, I assume, there will be a further study.
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Bill Balter: And then, based on the results of that we present that to the State historic preservation office, and in some cases there's nothing we need to do, and in other cases, there are things that we do do as a, for instance in tarrytown, which is a historic district and we're taking them.
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Bill Balter: Building that's not in the historic district is still connected to it we've decided to put in essentially a historical.
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Bill Balter: photographs and narrative about the history of the property in the village, I think, on a site like this, depending on what we find.
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Bill Balter: will miss him into suggested just to expand on that might be a great idea which is, we have a linear park and if we were to have.
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Bill Balter: Things along that linear pocket go from water street up through the arch.
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Bill Balter: You know, essentially, when I could imagine having brown signs you a little plaques describing elements that were on the property before, hopefully with the grinding wheel, or whatever we find I think that'd be great.
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Bill Balter: As a great way to sort of not only have the connection, but the physical connection, but as a cultural connection, so people see it when they walk through the site.
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Karen Dattore: Thank you very much, next we have susie Ross.
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Maddi Zachacz: Okay susie I am bringing you in please introduce yourself and give us for those who don't know your relationship to the village.
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Suzie Ross: Can you hear me.
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Suzie Ross: We can rate Thank you hi susie Ross I am chair person of green ossining and I.
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Suzie Ross: have been I think probably involved with watching this project from the beginning and i'm pleased to see a lot of improvements from last time that I.
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Suzie Ross: had a chance to look at what was going to be or the proposed development of this, so I have a few questions, though, and and most of my concerns at this moment are really related to the floodplain my concern has been and remains that water street will be underwater, and that is the main.
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Suzie Ross: The main thoroughfare for people to connect with that building whether it's whether it's parking or walking into the building itself or using that the area of the space in between the kill that that you've developed for people to walk around.
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Suzie Ross: it's also for the people, potentially living there, and so my question relates to the sources of information that you're using.
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Suzie Ross: I want to apologize I didn't get on the call until 20 minutes in, and I might have missed that but I think I heard somebody say that fema was being used fema flood maps and.
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Suzie Ross: So that's one one point I wanted to find out about what your source was with that, and then the other one was really whether or not the site.
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Suzie Ross: Right now, has been developed using the D sees guideline elevations for Community risk and resiliency and that those documents, I know that that new ones just came out in November that the obvious.
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Suzie Ross: The the, the real reason behind it was to update the the guideline elevations for buildings before more and more relevant sea level rise estimates have now been taken into account so two questions, really, what the source is for what you're building on and.
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Suzie Ross: Actually i'm going to make it three what the sources for the flood maps that you're using for the floodplains and whether or not the DC new guidelines were taken into consideration and I guess third would be.
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Suzie Ross: Will people be able to use water street from your perspective for the next at 100 years without concern that that road will be underwater.
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Karen Dattore: Thank you, Miss Ross We deeply appreciate these concerns, because there's something as you, you will know, we think about a lot here in ossining and we are not at all.
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Karen Dattore: Aware of the potential and possibly very devastating consequences of sea level rise.
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Karen Dattore: and flooding along the waterfront so beyond just this building, we have a responsibility also to make sure that we're doing things have positively positively impact the people who live there today.
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Karen Dattore: Not necessarily in this development, but the people who live along water street, this is a populated area and all of these things are concerned, for people today as well.
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Karen Dattore: Because, of course, they would be impacted as well, so it's something we've given a great deal of.
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Karen Dattore: Thought to I think that, since you missed the first part of the presentation, where we covered a lot of the sources that we're using i'm going to first turn this back to me Martinez to just recap that and then we can talk about Dec and also how we plan for the.
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Karen Dattore: Four things going forward that really require a myriad of collective efforts, not just here in ossining on Hudson river.
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Karen Dattore: With metro North and other things as well, so with that i'd like to start with, Jaime Martinez, and then I think we have other people on this call, who can speak to the the other issues, a very important issue raised.
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Jaime Martinez: Ah hi susie how you doing.
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Suzie Ross: Great Thank you.
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Jaime Martinez: You see again i'm going to actually share my screen real quick to go back to the presentation, I think you missed the beginning of it a lot of this was done in response to some of the comments that we've gotten from you to be quite honest, so the.
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Jaime Martinez: You know, part of the concern about this site that's been expressed by many in the Community, including yourself, is that is important to understand that there are limitations to the theme of maps and so when working with.
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Jaime Martinez: wilder balter we you know we mentioned to them that they needed to be taken into consideration, things like the cat adaptive design study and underlying data they use, which was the.
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Jaime Martinez: The the Columbia data, the season data, so the the presentation actually does refer to that specifically.
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Jaime Martinez: So you can see here I mean we do talk about it a little bit and we talk about the cornell adaptive design studio.
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Jaime Martinez: But the the the basis, I think, for some of their data was essentially looking at those projected fema maps as sort of a baseline.
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Jaime Martinez: Then, adding the 30 inches of sea level rise and looking at 100 year flood plain and taking that data and sort of helping to guide that.
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Jaime Martinez: I want to say it with the caveat that they still have to go through planning board process so there's still going to be more discussion about this, but this is like the baseline.
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Jaime Martinez: it's looking at, you can see here, this is the Hudson river flood impact decision support system is built off of that same Columbia data.
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Jaime Martinez: And you see the site is actually still warships not you know flooded 100 year flood plain at 30 inches.
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Jaime Martinez: So the level to which they're going to be required to look at this depends on a lot of different things, including state financing insurance thing and everything else, and so I do need.
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Jaime Martinez: them to kind of jump in but it as much as i'm not an engineer, we did ask for rich Williams from insight engineering, who is the site engineer for this proposal development to come and speak a little bit more about this.
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Jaime Martinez: So with that i'll hand it over which.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: Time in the morning susie.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: So, to answer your question about how this ties to DC Community risk and resiliency act.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: If you go to the DCS web page they listed there on on the website a table of projected sea level rises.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: And to tie that 30 am sea level rise that Jaime just suggested to DC CRA basically for the New York City lower Hudson valley vc projects to 30 and sea level rise as on the high end of the spectrum for.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: Just to relate it to a time interval so we've projected this out quite a ways.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: And not only that we took a look at the sea level rise with the 100 year storm.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: occurring at the same time, and what you saw on that mapping that Jaime just put up was the water street actually acts as a damn almost where the Hudson river side is what actually floods and it extends up to sing sing kill, but not out of the sing sing kill.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: So we did take that data into account, we also took a look at, not the effective fema maps which are currently the standard maps but what's coming down the Pike the pulmonary fema maps.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: And Maxwell and his team have adjusted all the building elevations to make sure that we keep the building involve the pulmonary floodplain elevations.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: So that we can you know build this building for longevity.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: Did that answer your question.
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Suzie Ross: It does, but I OK, so I so just to be clear this building is being built with the projections to.
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Suzie Ross: Not past that.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: It goes and on the high side so New York state has looked at.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: Low medium low low medium and medium high medium and high probability for sea level projections, and this is using the high end.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: Of the which equates to a medium level of the.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: or greater than a low probability in the 2100.
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Suzie Ross: Well then, the other question that i'm not sure I understand is the reliance on fema data because fema data has.
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Suzie Ross: I mean it's obvious it's been criticized for undercounting you know substantial risk of flooding and more more Americans have been placed in jeopardy, in terms of their homes and businesses because of fema.
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Suzie Ross: And their their their floodplains and it's not that's why the Columbia data is has been used much more because it takes into consideration coastal storms and rising rivers and flash flooding and all the other things that we'd really be very concerned about.
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Suzie Ross: So i'm sure where the fema part of this comes in at all.
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Suzie Ross: Good good the basis for the Columbia data but it's not the thing that's considered so on its own standing on its own it's it's it's something i'd be very concerned about using alone.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: understood and we're not.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: We looked at, we mentioned female because we have to because that's what the current flood ordinance recognizes.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: But it wasn't the only source, we did look at the Columbia data, and if you looked at the map, Jaime just.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: put up and maybe I mean if you don't mind sharing your screen again.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: What we do find, as you look at this this image and this is obviously the Columbia data with a 30 and sea level rise and 100 year storm on top of that, you can see that.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: Once you cross water street.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: The flood mound stays within the sink sink hill.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: And we have taken a look at.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: How that would impact our development and we believe we've accommodated that in a building design.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: We will also, as part of the planning board process that Jaime mentioned before, we are going to have to do a floodplain analysis study just to make sure that we're not impacting the floodplain.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: and make sure that we understand the impacts on our building model Latin and accounted for in our design.
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Jaime Martinez: Yes, I want to also kind of mentioned that again it's still going through the process, but one of the.
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Jaime Martinez: elements of this project.
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Jaime Martinez: Is that there's no residential on the bottom floor, so the only parts of the building that could theoretically be effective are.
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Jaime Martinez: The retail and commercial users on the bottom, but I believe that there has been some elevation of the building itself.
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Jaime Martinez: From where the site is so it's not it's not on the sort of the low end by the water street side it's actually more on level with the.
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Jaime Martinez: Back end, which is a believe a couple of feet up so those are elements that really get dealt with the planning board.
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Jaime Martinez: And again, you know there's just the limitation of trying to do all the elements of this process here, but I think that you know your concerns are are certainly been strongly.
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Jaime Martinez: held as part of this process and being integrated, to make sure that the final um you know the final project will be reflective of those concerns.
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Suzie Ross: So yeah, the only thing that I just quickly again want to reframe if I have to it's just that it's not just the flooding issue and what would be affected by it and with regard to the.
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Suzie Ross: Building itself it's that people have to get in and out of that building and in 2100 are people going to be able to get in and out of that building, because this is a huge investment for the Community, even for the developers.
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Suzie Ross: To make when people won't have security, I mean nobody builds a building for 30 years.
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Suzie Ross: that's crazy, especially with you know what is promising to be a really wonderful addition to our waterfront I just remain concern that people who will be living there over time will not be able to get in and out of that building and that's.
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Suzie Ross: an injustice issue, in my opinion.
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Suzie Ross: So I I think I love that there's this opportunity to you know have q&a and I really do think that i've seen a lot of improvement.
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Suzie Ross: From the original and it seems like you, are definitely taking Community feedback and so i'm grateful for that I don't expect you to have all the answers, but I just that question will remain in my head that until I think that people can live there safely.
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Suzie Ross: And 2100 I mean they should always be able to live there safely, but that, at least, is you know 80 years from now we're not building buildings for 80 years we should be building now for much longer than that, but certainly not 30.
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Karen Dattore: Thank you.
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Karen Dattore: Thank you susie we so appreciate the.
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Karen Dattore: Real thoughtfulness that you put into this and the importance of long range planning, as well as short range planning.
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Karen Dattore: I think the biggest challenge of our time is that we don't really know a lot of things about what are going to happen in the next 80 years and that is a concern that we all live with every single day.
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Karen Dattore: So in the efforts to do the best we can, those considerations are being taken into account, however, the issue of the waterfront.
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Karen Dattore: universally and any any place that is near sea level rise across you know each coast of the United States and every coast of every every continent.
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Karen Dattore: Is is a an issue that we're going to have to be dealing with collectively, there is no local solution on that level, so it is our hope that we are also going to be working with.
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Karen Dattore: The Dec which will have money is available for flood prevention sea level rise prevention at some point, it is.
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Karen Dattore: going to be important to all communities that invest in their waterfront to be able to protect that we also have a major transit line that goes through this.
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Karen Dattore: So it is our hope that as we go forward with what really is a very conservative approach to development of our waterfront compared to a lot of other waterfront communities.
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Karen Dattore: That we are increasingly sensitive about ways we can do not only make the changes that we need to make to address the most critical issues we have now, but also look forward in ways that we can do things more regionally more collectively and, more importantly.
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Karen Dattore: Because again when it comes to sea level rise, we can't work alone or or in isolation, on that issue I don't know if any other if bill or anybody else from the vulture team has anything else to add to.
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Karen Dattore: that the balance and the the ability to do due diligence, that is long reaching and make sure that we mitigate these concerns to the best of our possibility of best way possible.
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Bill Balter: I mean, the only thing I would add is that I think what susie brings up which we heard sort of after we were selected.
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Bill Balter: By the village, we heard a lot about this, we had spoken to riverkeeper about.
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Bill Balter: Excuse me syndicates and ever ever keeper actually um but particularly sienna cuts in and looked at the mapping and the data that was available, other than the female maps i'm.
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Bill Balter: Sorry.
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Bill Balter: i'm sorry I thought I was talking and I think we've adjusted our site, as has been discussed, I think that as an investor in this development as soon as he points out, is the developer, we are also concerned about preserving our investment.
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Bill Balter: While it's going to be an evolving process and we're going to go through the secret process and have a lot of outside agency.
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Bill Balter: review of this, I think we also want to make sure that what we're building is for the long term, my you know my greater concern is sort of, on the other side of.
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Bill Balter: To the west of our site what happens with the metro North tracks access to train stations up and down the Hudson.
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Bill Balter: I think those are all valid questions I think what happens to water street over time is a valid question, but I think.
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Bill Balter: we're going to do our part on our site, and you know we have to, we believe that we don't want to be immobilized all of us and do nothing because we don't know what's going to happen in 100 years, but I think we need to do the best we can have projects that are sustainable.
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Suzie Ross: I appreciate that I am I i'm thinking about this just in a way that you know you're starting, whereas everybody who lives down there and the train as well is inheriting and so you have a chance to look at this.
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Suzie Ross: From a zero base and that's to your benefit, so I, I feel that I appreciate you being open to hearing suggestions and thanks for the opportunity to comment.
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Karen Dattore: Thank you, thank you susie next i'd like to call over Elizabeth feldman.
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Maddi Zachacz: Okay Elizabeth Liz i'm bringing you over up please introduce yourself, and let us know your relationship to ossining for those who are unaware.
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Elizabeth Feldman: hi okay i'm Liz feldman Elizabeth and i'm a long time lover of the Hudson river and also one of the town council people.
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Elizabeth Feldman: But my question is there more to do with from being a lover and I did want to add to the comment that somebody had made that the storm impacts come from the Hudson.
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Elizabeth Feldman: up the kill.
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Elizabeth Feldman: You need to look back to tropical storm floyd where the impacts came down the kill and I know that metro North had made some improvements.
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Elizabeth Feldman: To accommodate that but we had even cars coming down the kill and some severe flooding, so you might want to look at that.
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Elizabeth Feldman: Impact those impacts on potential impact as well when you're doing your planning, but my question um I know you're talking a lot about the storm water coming down but that's the freshwater tributary which is really vital.
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Elizabeth Feldman: Equal sensitive breeding ground.
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Elizabeth Feldman: For a lot of species of fish that you know even saltwater fish that like to lay their eggs in the freshwater and I see that you're going to be.
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Elizabeth Feldman: disrupting the stream bed, especially.
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Elizabeth Feldman: Of concern is during the brownfield cleanup will you be protecting it during the cleanup and will you be restoring it back to a natural state, so that it does leave a breeding ground and an area for the fish to continue to procreate.
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Karen Dattore: Thank you, thank you, Miss bellman so of course we have we have deep concern for all living things in ossining, but I do want to toss this over to our our engineer again to talk about improvements makes and floyd and other things that impact.
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Karen Dattore: and address the issues that you're you're bringing up, which are all very, very important to us and have been talked about internally so.
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Paul Fraioli: Thank you Karen hylas.
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Paul Fraioli: So your first question was about the.
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Paul Fraioli: debris that came down the stream during floyd actually started in ossining.
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Paul Fraioli: Less than a year after floyd and when one of the things I worked on.
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Paul Fraioli: was some of the capital improvements necessary after that tropical storm.
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Paul Fraioli: The kill brooke itself through photo documentation and what i've discussed with folks along there it sure did take a lot of material down there, including cars and the like.
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Paul Fraioli: One of the main things we concern ourselves with when we are constructing the kill brooke trail and the sanitary sewer rehabilitation was just that.
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Paul Fraioli: included a lot of input from Gareth Hawkins group.
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Paul Fraioli: For the estuary and aquatic life we did the best we could, with the existing sanitary line existing easements and existing contours and the stream to maintain the ability for upstream spawning from the Hudson that still exists.
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Paul Fraioli: sure if Gareth was on this call, or if you approached him and discussed it, he will tell you that although.
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Paul Fraioli: Things are never perfect the.
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Paul Fraioli: Pollution in that stream has dropped orders of magnitude and the aquatic life has increased by the same.
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Paul Fraioli: we've done everything we could to maintain the.
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Paul Fraioli: To limit any waterfall details in the kill brooke to allow for that spawning and one of the things we mentioned in this presentation was the incorporation of dissipation pond on this side of the pond this projects side, the central avenue bridge to.
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Paul Fraioli: allow for a lot of that debris that f4 mentioned degree that you that you reference from tropical storm boy to get collected, so it doesn't make its way and sediment doesn't make its way into the downstream colbert's that would ultimately block the culverts.
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Paul Fraioli: and prevent future upstream spawning.
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Paul Fraioli: there's two players in that maintenance it's the village of Austin and metro North i'll speak for our colbert's that go underneath water street and then come open stream again and then drop down underneath the villages parking lot and then it goes to a third covert.
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Paul Fraioli: before it gets to the.
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Paul Fraioli: Open channel again just north of the harbor square property.
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Paul Fraioli: village maintains the Colbert underneath the train station parking lot and the covert underneath order street.
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Paul Fraioli: We do that routinely and you can see there's very limited to bring in there and because we're cognizant of the.
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Paul Fraioli: Impact of having limited flow to either those colbert's metro north is.
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Paul Fraioli: it's played by debris build up underneath their tracks.
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Paul Fraioli: Putting it crudely they get it from both ends, to get on the stream close in from the Hudson and when it slows down from our end.
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Paul Fraioli: When we first put out the rfp not this not not the rfp that.
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Paul Fraioli: While the boulder.
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Paul Fraioli: was selected for put the rfp prior to that one about 10 years ago I sat with the planner at the time and included.
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Paul Fraioli: What they are incorporated with while the boulders incorporating into this project here, which is that energy dissipation instead of a collection basin.
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Paul Fraioli: On the eastern end of the property because we wanted to partner with metro North because they were saying a lot of that the breeze coming down from your site.
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Paul Fraioli: we've done a lot we've done a lot in our clover it's can on our site to limit that, and this will really complete the picture of limiting any settlement that comes downstream to the.
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Paul Fraioli: The metro North Colbert they still have to deal with the sentiment coming from the other end on the Hudson but.
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Paul Fraioli: We are very aware of all the things you mentioned, and I think that when this project is completed it's going to be as as.
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Paul Fraioli: ecologically friendly as it possibly could be.
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Karen Dattore: Thank you, Paul.
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Karen Dattore: misspelled list any other questions.
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Elizabeth Feldman: um yeah well that answers what they've done to mitigate a storm, such as floyd but what i'm asking is what topography on the bottom of the Stream is going to be put back in place when they're done, and will it promote the breeding.
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Paul Fraioli: So i'm going to turn it over to rich in a second but, before you do that.
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Paul Fraioli: I forgot about that second part of the question, we talked about upsetting the stream.
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Paul Fraioli: When we did our projects because of the classification of the stream, which I like rich talk about a little bit in a second.
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Paul Fraioli: We were allowed to create flow bypasses and allowed to construct.
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Paul Fraioli: Temporary access roads, and it was all under the DC.
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Paul Fraioli: Biological permit division.
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Paul Fraioli: And I could I could venture to say that the work that we did in the stream.
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Paul Fraioli: Was.
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Paul Fraioli: significantly greater than what I believe, while the boulders going to do with regard to upsetting the existing stream, but the majority of their work is going to be along the side walls and along the side banks to create that path and to fortify the existing.
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Paul Fraioli: Side walls and head walls and carpet walls, where they exist, the stream bed itself i'm sure it's something that is again going to be.
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Paul Fraioli: upset to some extent, but not without DC oversight and significantly less than what we were permitted to do when we did the sanitary sewer construction but let's you know and we keep saying the sanitary sewer construction keep in mind the sanitary line that runs through the kill brooke.
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Paul Fraioli: diverts on Central avenue and runs down to the county's main sanitary sewer interceptor at the intersection of central avenue and water street the sanitary line that we encased in reinforced concrete upon which the trail sits.
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Paul Fraioli: does not continue underneath the central avenue bridge, essentially, while the water is constructing a path.
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Paul Fraioli: Where there is no infrastructure there's no public works improvement, this is strictly going to be a path, so the project and the interruption to the stream associated with this project is is significantly less, and with that i'll finally roll it over to rich.
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Elizabeth Feldman: Actually we before you did my.
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Elizabeth Feldman: part of my question is I watched the brownfield clean up during harbor Square and I know that's an extensive project, and you know, will there be protections during all the digging and everything for the stream bed um you know these isolated, so that those.
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Elizabeth Feldman: Toxins don't get into the stream or sediments because it's a big process.
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Elizabeth Feldman: And I understand that the sewer goes the other direction, which means, this is one of the untouched areas I mean there's a lot of bypasses.
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Elizabeth Feldman: And disrupted areas, so this is one of the few areas it hasn't been disrupted in many years um so that's why i'm asking about this particular area of the stream.
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Paul Fraioli: Understand again I think rich, you have some you can probably better answer the the.
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Paul Fraioli: stormwater plans and the slip associated with the brownfield storm water pollution prevention plan with the brownfield cleanup and then the site itself so.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: Are our goal is going to be not to touch the stream as much as possible.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: We want to leave things in their natural conditions, particularly with respect to the stream bed.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: It as Paul mentioned, we will be rebuilding the walls on the sides of the sink sink kill we're going to do that with out trying to go into the stream that as much as possible.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: As far as during the brownfield we will develop erosion control panel plants and soil management handling plans to isolate off the sink sink kill.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: We haven't developed all the details of that and we're obviously going to have to work with the village Community stakeholders in the development of that planet at all be presented to the public openly.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: Where we are going to be probably doing the most work in the sink sink kill is on the upstream end and that is going to be in order to create the walkway.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: which will be similar in nature, to what was done as part of the storm sewer project that paul's been mentioning and also.
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Rich Williams, P.E., Insite: On the shore of the sink sink kill on the upstream end in order to create this storm water improvement energy dissipation structure but, again, the, the main objective, and all of that is to stay out of the natural stream path as much as we can.
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Elizabeth Feldman: Thank you.
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Karen Dattore: Thank you um so in a related question that we've gotten in in our comments Miguel Hernandez is asking, is there any dredging of the kill contemplated so thing we've sort of address that people do you want to sort of expand on that.
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Paul Fraioli: Oh again i'm.
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Paul Fraioli: i'm going to probably turn it to bill after a quick introduction saying that.
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Paul Fraioli: I don't believe dredging and is part of your brownfield cleanup and again with the limited interruptions that rich mentioned for the construction of he uploads improvement path is in the specification either.
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Bill Balter: I so oddly we're doing a development in peekskill right now, which has a something called the McGregor broke that runs right through it, similar to the sinks in kill announcing.
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Bill Balter: Really weirdly it's also between central avenue and Main Street in peekskill that is also brownfield site and we're just finishing the browser clean up.
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Bill Balter: To track one clean up, which is the highest level of cleanup I bring that up because it's very parallel to what we're going to be doing here the brownfield a program that we expect to put the property into has tremendous oversight for the DC on all things, including.
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Bill Balter: The in this case the sinks in kill what we do to the things in kill, I think one place here that I just wanted to pause on the sinks in kill.
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Bill Balter: stream bed has a tremendous amount of debris and.
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Bill Balter: material in it from over the years, the flooding, I think that net net will significantly improve the sing sing kill as a part of this project.
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Bill Balter: The reason for example that we're we are rebuilding the walls of the sinks in kill is not an aesthetic reason.
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Bill Balter: Is because the walls are failing and need to be rebuilt when Max will have described what we're going to do to beautify them and raised them.
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Bill Balter: we're doing it first and foremost because it needs to be done, as long as we're doing it we're going to make it a an asset to the development, but all this will happen in a way that.
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Bill Balter: has tremendous oversight, not just from the village, but also from the DC and the brownfield cleanup itself we're going to be removing material.
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Bill Balter: will be away from the walls of the sinks in kill we don't expect that we're going to be removing the walls of the sinks in kill at all as a part of our cleanup will just be rebuilding the walls as sort of putting Humpty Dumpty back together again.
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Karen Dattore: Thank you.
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Karen Dattore: And we also i'm noticing that susie Ross has her hand up susie do you have another question.
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Suzie Ross: Thanks sorry I just it just occurred to me just because I know you're going to be covering brownfields next week.
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Suzie Ross: But has the cleanup remedy been determined for the site completely.
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Bill Balter: Mr.
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Karen Dattore: bill why don't you start, and we can have staff also talk about some of the the recent discussions that we've been having with the DC.
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Bill Balter: So, briefly, will we will ultimately submit.
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Bill Balter: A plan to the dp.
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Bill Balter: Once we're in the program but we're not in the program currently because of the sent consent agreement that the.
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Bill Balter: That kind of has the DC they're still responsible, the level of fear that they want to do we don't think as anywhere close to.
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Bill Balter: Appropriate so our goal, as was done on harbor square would be to enter into an agreement with Conrad and the DC where we will do the cleanup to a higher level, but I think Stewart probably can give you a better answer than that.
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Stuart Kahan: You said, most of it bill, but I will say susie we did get recently from the state published its fact sheet, with regard to this location.
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Stuart Kahan: comment letters or do back to the DC, I believe, on the 26th of February.
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Stuart Kahan: I know that Walter Walter will be sending a letter I know that the village will be sending in a letter.
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Stuart Kahan: The alternative selected by comments representative is bill as correctly pointed out, is insufficient, so we will be looking for a a more robust of work product with regard to the extent of the brownfield cleanup.
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Suzie Ross: that's great news, thank you.
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Karen Dattore: Thank you susie.
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Karen Dattore: I also noticed that now Elizabeth feldman Liz bellman do you have another question as well, I see your hand is up.
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Karen Dattore: Yes.
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Elizabeth Feldman: I just didn't take my hand down sorry about that.
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Karen Dattore: i'm good okay um so i'm not seeing any additional questions I do see there's a few more people on the list here.
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Karen Dattore: So if you have any questions comments concerns, we would love to hear from you now, you can also write to us call us and talk to us anytime we are happy to answer additional questions we have two more.
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Karen Dattore: of our dp who two more installments of our dp w engagement series and again if there's any questions right now we are happy to take them.
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Rika Levin: I think we're good.
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Karen Dattore: not seeing any i'd like to turn this back to our mayor and our trustees for any closing comments.
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Rika Levin: We love to hear from the trustees if they have some questions that I have something before we close this session a personal request um I know those are just renderings.
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Rika Levin: folks but those people in the renderings don't reflect this Community frankly I don't think the reflect any community and downstate New York and in the 21st century, and this is being built for the next hundred years, so if you could, in the future either use a more diverse rendering.
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Rika Levin: of people of color seniors which, I believe that to your credit and the last meeting you discuss some handicap accessibility issues within the apartments which was very impressive.
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Rika Levin: that's just a request that we portray people not leave people off.
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Rika Levin: pictorial individually, my question is I didn't get a chance, while we were on to look at Leeds is the gold leads standard the highest standard, or is there one above gold is that anybody can answer I just didn't get a chance to.
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Rika Levin: Or, I can find it on their website anyway.
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Bill Balter: I will there, there are a lot of different green building standards lead has many levels.
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Bill Balter: leed gold is what we're currently have committed to on this development in peekskill and entire town and our peekskill community as a, for instance, which is a legal community we're right on the edge of getting to what's called leed platinum.
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Bill Balter: thought possible we'll get to that point in peekskill possible get their entire town it's possible to get there, and this site, but it's not something that we can commit to into a way further along.
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Rika Levin: Because you know.
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Rika Levin: As the Mayor of our city I want us to be number one on top so, however, what the standards are was actually hard to follow on their website and.
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Rika Levin: I want to talk a little bit or ask questions, both as a mayor, but also as a resident.
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Rika Levin: about the parking lot we talked a lot about water, but the environment is much more than just the water, although building with a body of water gone through the middle.
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Rika Levin: Of the development is no easy feat, so the parking lot seemed to me and i'm not going to talk about aesthetics it's not my aesthetics, but aesthetics, are very personal.
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Rika Levin: But it seemed to me a lot of material, I was under the impression that today's and future parking lots are built with fewer.
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Rika Levin: distractions and walls, for the same security and safety of people who parked their cars, so that things are more visible, so that people aren't as a friend of mine in binghamton said, having lots of parties and parking lots because the police can't see them.
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Rika Levin: The cmc a lot of material and material from an environmental point of view is.
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Rika Levin: Generally, a negative so that's one question about the parking lot The second question is is there thought I really love the green gardens, since our last meeting.
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Rika Levin: kudos love it, but the parking the top deck whether it's an extra deck that is being thought about for the public use will there be a solar canopy I was with sustainable westchester a couple of days ago talking more and more about.
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Rika Levin: Solar canopies above parking lots, which would help actually i'm the tenants, and they would actually help us as the management company.
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Rika Levin: For the next 99 years and there recently been Community solar initiatives here in westchester just recently rolled out that have a financial benefits both to tenants and to developers, depending on how you participate So those are my own comment in two questions.
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Bill Balter: So, as far as the garage is concerned, I think that the idea of an open garage as opposed to a crush it looks more like a building is definitely on the table it's a good it's a good consideration and the idea about solar canopy on top of the.
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Bill Balter: Top Level of the garage I think that's probably going to be something that we talked with the village about as we move forward.
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Bill Balter: We have anticipated that this in the in our response to the rf queue that we would build this extra level of parking for municipal parking if the village wants to have.
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Bill Balter: A solar canopy above that or if we want to have it, and essentially have the right to put that above the villages level of parking.
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Bill Balter: Both very good ideas we're already doing large solar and our building our goal on these developments, is to get somewhere between the third and 50% of the electric use of the building.
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Bill Balter: Total attributes of the building through solar so we're as we move along I think these are all good things you brought up, and I think they're all things will look at.
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Rika Levin: I really appreciate that bill with each of these sessions we're going to learn new things, so I appreciate it if I may open to the trustees for questions or comments, if we have any.
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Omar Lopez: I can go next Thank you mayor so start with gratitude for all of the folks from Jamie to Maxwell to Paul all the way around that helped put this together super informative.
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Omar Lopez: I found that the section in particular, with a renderings that I you I explained maximal to be particularly illuminating, for I really making it clear what it is that this project can be.
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Omar Lopez: So either that that was great so one specific thing in response to the mayor's is actually one thing that I respectfully disagree with the Mayor on where I had my eye toward, what are the.
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Omar Lopez: People under the representations of the people in the renderings I did find it to be relatively diverse, they are looked to be multi racial families older people or sorts of things and I wouldn't want I.
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Omar Lopez: kind of have a check the box and is there every single kind of person in every single image, because then it's a little bit cartoonish I trust your professional judgment and I also find this particular thing interesting.
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Omar Lopez: Because there are historically mostly young Scandinavian people in renderings of architecture and so i'm sure you're familiar with non Scandinavia and other kinds of resources of.
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Omar Lopez: Having people of color in PNG form for rendering, so I would I would continue to push I think that the spirit of the mayor's comments are spot on, and I endorse those and wouldn't want to tie to push to cartoonish levels to feel like we've hit everybody on that, on the list.
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Omar Lopez: Number two it's not just a comment number two, which is a common question is one of the things that we spoke about earlier was around.
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Omar Lopez: researching the native Americans and and the site, one thing that I would love is I don't know why how it might work but.
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Omar Lopez: When I went to Vancouver many years ago, the Vancouver airport has all of these native American pieces of art throughout the airport and to me it's like you arrive at the airport and it's immediately visible how apart.
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Omar Lopez: By native Canadians, the first peoples, there are really important to their culture, and I think similarly here if there are any nods that we can make to first peoples in the architecture of this building, whether it's on the inside, or the outside.
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Omar Lopez: I think that that's really viable we've discussed having photos of what the site used to look like on the lobby or something like that I think that's cool we should definitely do that, but any announced that we can have toward.
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Omar Lopez: native peoples that would be great the last piece, because neither one of those has anything to do with greening our waterway, which is the purpose of this meeting is that I think that having the kind of considerations that you have in response to susie's question.
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Omar Lopez: I end up building this I really, really important in any way that, as we are talking about this in the future so after all of this is done.
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Omar Lopez: Talk I I would want to reinforce the long term nature, the long term impact that a project like this can have on the on the environment, certainly, but then it just in the Community, more widely, so I think the point.
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Omar Lopez: That I took one of the points that I took from what susie said is let's have a long term vision and impact for this site as well, and so I want to underscore.
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Omar Lopez: That, as we continue to talk about this, but I thank you so much for all of this really exciting I plan, once this is on YouTube to take that section out where we talking about we're actually talking about the renderings.
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Omar Lopez: and sharing it with everyone in the world, so that they can see, this is exactly what we're trying to accomplish here, so thank you.
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Bill Balter: ma'am mad at one thing to that please respond to that.
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Bill Balter: When I was talking before and response to susie's question one of the things I didn't say that it's important we really believe that everything we do needs to.
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Bill Balter: be an example of what can be done, and we want to do better than just sort of checking a box on anything we want everything we do to be something that people go back and.
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Bill Balter: Look at that and use as an example of what can be done, and I think that what Omar just said is really brings that up.
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Bill Balter: I think there's so many ways to do that here, I think you know from.
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Bill Balter: we're doing a building that arguably believe will be one of the coolest buildings done in this part of the county.
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Bill Balter: And it's a mixed income building that's so cool it's a brownfield site that is three and a half acres that.
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Bill Balter: is currently blocked off from the public and it's not a connection we're going to make it a connection we're going to make it a linear park.
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Bill Balter: And it's not going to just be for our residents it's going to be open to the public more than open to the public it's going to be designed.
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Bill Balter: it's being designed in a way to encourage the public I think these and many other things that green construction.
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Bill Balter: it's we really want to show people what can be done so i'm more than just what susie said about the sea level rise, I think, in everything we do.
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Bill Balter: I think it's incredibly important to all of us to do that I know this is a religious property in this sort of have to decide if they really want to do this or not, but as someone who's been doing this for 30 years.
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Bill Balter: We take it, I promise you just as seriously as the village doesn't and the public it's a great opportunity, and we should all use it.
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Thank you bill.
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Omar Lopez: matter mayor i'm done so, if you want to hit it off to someone oh.
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Rika Levin: yeah i'm waiting actually.
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Dana White: i'll say something.
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Dana White: yeah um.
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Dana White: Well, the more I learned the more I see about this project, the more I warm up to it, I think the renderings are terrific and really give us a visual of.
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Dana White: What it could look like.
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Dana White: I think that the developer wilder baltar top flight.
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Dana White: thoughtful I think these sessions are incredibly informative and well done and I appreciate everybody who's called in and listened.
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Dana White: As we know, we cannot make this solely for residents of ossining it's against the law.
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Dana White: But I really do believe that our residents will benefit from.
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Dana White: This place.
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Dana White: And one thing I want to that i've always.
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Dana White: wanted to emphasize is having some sort of access up.
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Dana White: Or maybe some area behind within the property by by the sea part of Main Street that accesses mainstream from the development.
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Dana White: So that if you want to walk up Main Street you don't have to go around and all the way up that.
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Dana White: That Hill, which actually used to be called high street in the 19th century and was the only way down to the waterfront incredibly steep so steep that the oxen had to give time to rest on their way up when the farmers were returning from taking their crops to the river.
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Dana White: So this is a historic place in that it was extremely functional place historically.
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Dana White: I would like, I think, though, that for a lot of people that that Hill, I mean even the oxen had to rest Okay, so that hill is a challenge to me, I mean i'm not a spring chicken anymore.
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Dana White: And it'd be great if there were if it whether it's an elevator or a stairway or something that allows people to get up to our central business district they're just makes it a little bit easier for them.
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Dana White: I know, an elephant, you know stairs you know, an elegant I I think something had been discussed, but I haven't I just wanna make sure that remains a priority um but.
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Dana White: I think this is, I just get more excited about this every time we have another one of these sessions and.
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Dana White: that's pretty much it Thank you.
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Rika Levin: Thank you Dana appreciate it ECHO yours.
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Rika Levin: it's beginning to really take shape.
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Rika Levin: I think it's it's fabulous manny is manny anything or.
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Just.
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Manuel R. Quezada: So it was funny because before Dana said anything about the connection just keep in mind that, actually, that was one of my questions in here and I didn't want to forget because there was part of our cue process.
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Manuel R. Quezada: The connection between this lot in mainstream portion of it, and everything that we have talked.
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Manuel R. Quezada: So far, the has not been the connection we talked about the connection on Central APP but.
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Manuel R. Quezada: Not the connection between that in mainstream we talked about how how that will improve well if the developer has more, how will that will prove to the mainstream portion but.
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Manuel R. Quezada: not really sure the connections, so that is not clear for me so hopefully that will become clear um I wanted to Maxwell in regards to the renderings because that does bring a different perspective or hard dummy look again is funny because i'll buy you know when you look at renderings.
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Manuel R. Quezada: Maxwell probably knows this, it seems this before an architectural feel you have the renderings and reality so sometimes it renders a reality, something doesn't look like you know the beautiful renderings so sometimes we get so.
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Manuel R. Quezada: I do, I want you guys to general questions sure in you know we can talk about this and all the time or internally, however, it is um.
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Manuel R. Quezada: When I was involved in one of the previous projects, I came in after the whole thing was done, we just need to do, special permit approvals.
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Manuel R. Quezada: And I was told that i'm at that time, we cannot talk about materials and that building.
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Manuel R. Quezada: shows, because that was in our preview because, again, everything was done by the time we got but by the time I became a trustee, this is a little bit different.
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Manuel R. Quezada: We are in the process of that so at some point of time, I would like to talk about materials, and what that looks like.
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Manuel R. Quezada: before they can go to the to the planning board, because I know the planning board and architectural bubo will look at that as well, and what that looks like and what that means, but because this is a village on property or would like to take advantage of that.
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Manuel R. Quezada: arm before they even go there, so I don't want to have an answer to that right now we can discuss this another time the other point is i'm.
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Manuel R. Quezada: Not to piggyback on what Omar said and what susie said, but more in general sure i'm.
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Manuel R. Quezada: From a perspective of an engineering perspective in a prospective when architects or perspective or when someone designed something usually in our.
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Manuel R. Quezada: bill Keller talks a little bit about this is like we don't design for 30 years 50 years we design a pretty much to stand there for very long time, whatever that may be on time is.
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Manuel R. Quezada: Are you know I remember when when I went to school and we see we studied like you know how the water plants, you know how New York City became what this other infrastructures carry when the water over.
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Manuel R. Quezada: The total, but the point was you decide for 100 years ELISE 100 years so to me, you know when we talk about the signing of or something, whatever that is the expectation is that there's going to be there for a long time.
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Manuel R. Quezada: And what does that look like we don't know yet, and it has to stand for a very long time we've seen buildings, I seen buildings that.
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Manuel R. Quezada: are still standing on the waterfront of yonkers and they were being repurposed for something else.
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Manuel R. Quezada: So that's the expectation i'm not talking about just again, this is just an overall picture i'm not going to miss Pacific for this for this project, but that should be the expectation of that.
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Manuel R. Quezada: My last comment for bill, so you mentioned that this is a very unique site you want it to be the best so are you saying that you want the site to be better than the one in pisco that you're working on it just want to have that, for the record.
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Bill Balter: that's funny no I think it's I think everything we do I go back to the stone creek next to club fitting briarcliff.
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Bill Balter: Now, which we built 30 years ago, or so, for what it is it's a model of what could be done 30 years ago in affordable housing, and this is.
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Bill Balter: The pixel development special for many reasons, this one's going to be special for a lot of reasons, one of the things in this development is, this is not being designed as a wood building is being designed as a.
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Bill Balter: Maximum could probably do a better job of explaining this, but this is going to be.
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Bill Balter: Like a.
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Bill Balter: Mental skill building.
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Bill Balter: and reinforced concrete it's going to certainly stand the test of time.
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Bill Balter: architecturally it's going to be a beautiful building i'm really excited about it, I mean we're building 27 story tower in new Rochelle i'm excited about that too i'm not gonna say i'm not excited about everything we do this is why we do what we do so yeah we're excited.
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Manuel R. Quezada: So is it going to be better than.
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Rika Levin: You could just say.
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Rika Levin: The answer.
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Bill Balter: Okay.
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Rika Levin: On that note.
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Rika Levin: it's always good to have this just a general might have, first of all thank you to everyone for being here on a Saturday.
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Rika Levin: Especially staff it's not like they took the day off yesterday, this is just ongoing, we have a number of initiatives it's really impressive the amount.
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Rika Levin: of patience, along with expertise that is being brought on so that everybody feels that they're part of it.
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Rika Levin: I encourage you to tell your friends, I encourage you to share this on social it's on our website public engagement So these are a series of public engage based on topic.
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Rika Levin: There are cumulative that can be seen alone but here's the other part, and Jaime mentioned that it will be coming in front of ck slot salon from our.
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Rika Levin: AC that's a public meeting as well, and they do look to the public if it has issues questions to send them in to listen in planning board is also.
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Rika Levin: A public session blt at village of ossining.org if you are a person who would rather speak to your representatives and are not.
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Rika Levin: So interested in having everybody see your questions you might have something that.
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Rika Levin: may be controversial, that you feel you don't want to say here, we welcome all of those comments we will answer all those comments so there's lots of places for the public.
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Rika Levin: singularly in a group to be involved, I offered this last time I know there's a lot of snow i'm happy to take people on personal you know may or tour of.
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Rika Levin: The site have done it for a few people took me up on it i'll drive down where your masks and we can look at the side because, looking at the site actually gives you a real vision.
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Rika Levin: of it was across the street, etc, my pleasure, if any constituents want to to go down there, this has been super enlightening Thank you all.
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Rika Levin: I think we I don't I didn't bring my gavel so i'm just going to say thank you have a wonderful weekend For those of you that are lucky enough to have Monday off enjoy the downtime looking at Karen to see if there's anything else i'm not seeing anything.
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Karen Dattore: else one more thing one more thing you know we got a comment from susie Ross and it will read it, because it is important.
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Karen Dattore: What manny said low COP curbing concrete, please, I need ambassadors so again building materials, I think, will be important to us just conveying that to the developer, I think he already knows that but.
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Karen Dattore: yeah I just.
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Rika Levin: End it.
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Karen Dattore: All all words are heard.
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Rika Levin: Yes, and the AC actually this particular group for the past, I would say two years.
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Rika Levin: Some of them actually are experts in some of this stuff and they volunteer to be on the AC Sino kate's taking this back to the group they are all about materials they have put up recommendations as people go, so I know they're going to hear.
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Rika Levin: they're going to hear that COM, so thank you all have a great rest of the weekend and enjoy the oncoming snow For those of you that, like snow.
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Bill Balter: Thank you.
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Karen Dattore: bye bye everybody bye bye.