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Ossining DPW Site Redevelopment ENGAGEMENT SERIES
Why Here? Why This? Why Now?

Thursday, January 21st, 7PM
Zoom Transcript

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Rika Levin: Wrapping something up. So I think we can get started.

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Rika Levin: Okay.

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Karen Dattore: Let's get started. Lauren and Bill joined. They don't have a sizing. All right now.

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Maddi Zachacz: Let's get started, just like

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Rika Levin: Okay, here we are. We started

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Rika Levin: Good evening, everyone. Welcome to the first of

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Rika Levin: Six sessions I know Bill Balta looks like he's trying to call in or something. I was just

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Rika Levin: distracted from it. So, welcome everyone from Ossining and beyond. This is a great moment. I think we are looking to have a series of six engagements with the public. You could tune in or zoom in to all of them, some of them part of them. We hope that you become engaged in informing

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Rika Levin: The village on your opinions about the project and whole in part in whatever way you want to look at it. I think the question for tonight. The topic for tonight. The headline is

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Rika Levin: why we're here. How we got here and all that fun stuff. Simply put, and I will not be speaking for long is this follows. First of all, I'm RICO 11 I'm the mayor of Boston in there are panelists on here that include a village staff attorney planner village manager system village manager.

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Rika Levin: I think all almost all the trustees, but they will all be here.

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Rika Levin: The developer that is being discussed to go with this project we have Paul fairly who is

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Rika Levin: The engineer who's highly involved, and I'm sure I've missed someone, and I apologize in advance the point of it all being is we're here to answer questions. We're here to listen and that is the goal.

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Rika Levin: I for one will not be speaking at all after this introduction, because my goal tonight is to actually listen to constituents in here, the questions as clearly as possible. So that would be my way of doing it. But my colleagues will approach.

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Rika Levin: This as they want to. This is the first of the series, meaning that a lot of it might be some background both about how we got here. What

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Rika Levin: The DP W site as we call it, which is down by the waterfront looks like today. The history of it where we'd like to take it.

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Rika Levin: I shouldn't make known that both the Board of Trustees last year voted unanimously to improve this particular part of our community, which has been sitting vacant for decades.

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Rika Levin: Being used for various purposes, which you'll hear about in the presentation, which is quite impressive, frankly, the other piece of it is that the board this year, which includes new member Dana White also unanimously is in support of

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Rika Levin: Doing something better than what it is today.

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Rika Levin: For the future of Ossining and that I think really frames the conversation today, which will be mostly run. I believe by village manager and our planner, but you have a slew of people with expertise and history to answer your questions. So please take it away. The story.

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Karen Dattore: Thank you so much. Mayor 11 as mayor 11 said the village has for some time been contemplating options for the DP W site. So tonight we're going to talk specifically about why

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Karen Dattore: The road that we've taken our are

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Karen Dattore: The RF Q that we initiated in

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Karen Dattore: The request for qualifications to seek developers to develop solutions that would address many of the issues that have come to us through the public

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Karen Dattore: Over the past several years, including the need for affordability green space parking we address a lot of different issues here as well as retail development.

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Karen Dattore: So with that, I would like to hand this over to our Director of Planning Jaime Martinez, who will take you through an overview of the of the

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Karen Dattore: Overview of the project will also be hearing a little bit from the developer on their credentials.

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Karen Dattore: But then afterwards as the mayor said this is really about hearing from you. So this is an opportunity for you to provide comments feedback, ask questions.

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Karen Dattore: We will be answering your questions, if we if we can't answer them tonight. They will be answered. And we will be following up and we also have five more presentations about the site that deal with specific aspects.

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Karen Dattore: Of the project and the project features as well as the impact on the community on the schools on the environment. So with that, I would like to turn it over to Jaime

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Jaime Martinez: Thank you, Mayor and thank you karen first I want to thank the attendees who are here. It looks like we have about 11 attendees that are

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Jaime Martinez: Here to find out all about this project, or at least find out a little bit more. And so we're super excited that you're here to engage and learn more about the project and give us your opinion. So with that, I am going to share my screen.

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Jaime Martinez: And

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Jaime Martinez: And if everybody just let me know. Can you hear. Can you see the screen.

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Jaime Martinez: Other Members.

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Rika Levin: I can say

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Jaime Martinez: Okay, great. Alright, so the this is the why here why this, why now it's the presentation all about the proposed site development at the current DP W yard on Water Street.

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Jaime Martinez: So let's go right into a little bit of details about the overview of the site itself. So for some site history. It's a 3.3 acre site bounded by Water Street Main Street secret road and Central Avenue and it's transverse by the 16 kill Brooke.

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Jaime Martinez: The site contains significant steep slopes on eastern portion of a lot and it is a contaminated brownfield

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Jaime Martinez: Site.

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Jaime Martinez: So a little bit about that brownfield aspect.

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Jaime Martinez: Previously, the site was used as a coal gas plant from the 1850s, to the 1940s, which had a significant impact on the site itself.

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Jaime Martinez: It, it affected the groundwater and the soil on the site and has actually had an impact on other sites downgrading from it with coal tar

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Jaime Martinez: This site was subject to a New York State DC voluntary cleanup agreement between Con Edison and DC

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Jaime Martinez: Currently it's been used as a DP W yard and as I'm sure many people know is sort of providing a unsightly first impression when you get off the train, because it's visible right there from the train station on the east side. And it also prevents the extension to sink sink kill me.

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Jaime Martinez: From going on to Water Street.

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Jaime Martinez: So we have a great video that was put together by op ed and narrated by Paul Fraley, so let's see here.

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30 Water Street.

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This 3.4 acre parcel.

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consisting of five separate tax parcels, the village of Boston

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Is the former home of the villages cpw facility. It is now primarily used as a transfer facility for organic waste, seeing that the right of the video.

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And other recyclable or materials used NTP W operations.

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It is bordered by Water Street on the western boundary

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Central Avenue and the northern boundary

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And lower Main Street on the southern boundary of the parcel.

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Once completed, approximately one and a half acres of green space will remain on the eastern portion of property connected to water street through a part being constructed along the cobra trail.

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Extending up through the green portion of the parcel.

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Karen Dattore: On the east and most fortunate to connect pedestrians to the villages Riverwalk Southern connection off of Central Avenue.

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Access to lower Main Street.

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As well as access to the villages kill Brooke Riverwalk

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Will be an asset as parcel offers in addition to the affordable and workforce housing component

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Jaime Martinez: Alright, well this project actually was developed through an RFP process with some specific guiding principles.

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Jaime Martinez: Was beginning was developed with public input and was created with a clear set of goals that aligned with the desires of the community rather than an RFP process that would yield ideas of what a developer thought would work best, which is really important to the process.

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Jaime Martinez: This corrected everything

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Jaimie Hoffman: Now the bar still there.

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Karen Dattore: Well, but we can see it's moving around a little bit. So I don't know what

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Karen Dattore: what the issue is. It's there. Now it's much smaller. So

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Karen Dattore: I would just leave it like that.

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Jaime Martinez: Right.

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Jaime Martinez: Right, so the RFU details, it created in portable residential opportunity.

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Jaime Martinez: Yeah, the project should create an affordable resents opportunity that will be attracted to a range of income levels in the village and all generations.

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Jaime Martinez: It was also important, they would execute some of the key policy strategies of the ass means 2017 housing needs assessment, one of which was provided deeper and broader level.

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Jaime Martinez: Of affordability requirements for new housing development to ensure access to affordable housing by lower income households and it's important mixed income housing.

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Jaime Martinez: It was also important that it provided a public amenity that facilitated a pedestrian connection between upper Main Street and station Plaza.

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Jaime Martinez: And they provided public access along the sink sink kill and make a connection to the sinks and kill brain way.

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Jaime Martinez: We also wanted it to encourage additional development in the area employee modern materials and sustainable practices that it would be pedestrian friendly and it would also create space for commercial opportunities and community programming.

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Jaime Martinez: Little bit about Wilder Barclays so of the correspondence that we did have while the box or partners, provided the strongest response to the RFU in part due to their proven and successful track record for similar projects strong reputation.

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Jaime Martinez: As well as a well I'd argue that was aligned with the guiding principles. It was also important to know that the project.

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Jaime Martinez: Could be financed can be actually developed. So you want to make sure that you have a developer that is able to build the project. So with that, I'm gonna hand it over to Bill Walter to talk a little bit about himself and his team. Okay.

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Bill Balter: Hi, everyone. Thanks for tuning in. I appreciate it. So, because we're really here to listen to the public. I'm going to do this super quickly while the ball to partners is a development company. We're located the old Reader's Digest campus now called chocolate bar crossing

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Bill Balter: I am a Westchester resin. I grew up in Hastings, I now live in Mount kisco

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Bill Balter: We have go to the next slide.

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Bill Balter: Please, we have

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To thank you

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Bill Balter: So we have done.

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Bill Balter: About 20 something that elements in Westchester, we've done about a half a billion dollars of development in the tri state area.

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Bill Balter: But we really try to focus on Westchester and the Hudson Valley as much as possible. We're very experienced in market rate housing affordable housing and mixed income housing. We're currently building in Peekskill sort of similar development to what we're proposing here.

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Bill Balter: And we all the components that we're proposing here are things we've done before, but in brownfield projects like this that are very challenging sites. The topography of this site, we've dealt with that type of thing before.

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Bill Balter: Basically, this is a very exciting project for us because it's a way to take something that

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Bill Balter: Is a very underutilized property that's not an attractive piece of property but incredibly valuable location for the village and translated into turn it into something that's a valuable asset that creates a lot of wins for the village and the residents of the village, including

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Bill Balter: The Greenway connection the housing different levels of affordable housing as well as obviously

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Bill Balter: The green light connection retail and in large community space. If you go to the next slide please.

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Bill Balter: So check for crossings with example of a development, we developed a couple of buildings 64 mixed income apartments are affordable and 40 to 90% of them I complicated construction, but something that really came up very well I just go to the next slide please.

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Bill Balter: I'm in Peekskill, the development. I mentioned before, it's a similar kind of development. It's a mixed income development on a steep side and a brownfield on

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Bill Balter: That development of lead.

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Bill Balter: Going to be LEED Gold and it's just, again, we thought for big skill in a very similar way is a very underutilized piece of property that creates a connection between

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Bill Balter: Their downtown and their waterfront. So we're very excited to do that. And this is a follow project and also thing we're super excited about it. So with that, thank you.

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Jaime Martinez: Thank you, Bill.

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Jaime Martinez: So a little bit about the building itself. The current proposal includes a mixed use building with 109 residential units with a range of affordability from 30% to 80% area median income.

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Jaime Martinez: There are 12 residential units at 30%. Am I 18 units at 40% 23 units at 50%. Am I 20 units at 60%. Am I 20 at 70%. Am I in 16 units at 80%, am I

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Jaime Martinez: The first what is am I so for many of you, area median income, something that you may not be familiar with, but what it is, is basically the sort of the median income of the people in a designated area.

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Jaime Martinez: area median income is different for different areas and is determined by a set of federally mandated rules the API for Ossining is actually based off of Westchester County. Am I numbers, rather than specific numbers for only the village of

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Jaime Martinez: The income rolls vary by household size. So, you know, the there is one set of am I for one person household versus a poor personality.

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Jaime Martinez: And etc and it it's it's it's quite a bit different. The Ossining median household income is actually $70,177

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Jaime Martinez: And you can look that up on the census quick facts table about the village of it, but for Westchester County hundred percent, am I for family for also before is 120 $5,000 so 60%, am I

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Jaime Martinez: Which is a lot of what many of these units would be, it's actually closer to what the median income for us in it, which is $75,500

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Jaime Martinez: So a little bit about the unit layout significant shifts have been made from the original RFP proposal if you did get a chance to take a look at that, prior to this meeting.

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Jaime Martinez: The current iteration actually has fewer units. So it was originally at 126 and is now down to 109

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Jaime Martinez: Of that there are 27 one bedroom units 55 two bedroom units and 27 three bedroom units and the unit's themselves can be flexible on bedroom sizes and income levels and that's subject to the funding constraints for the project.

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Jaime Martinez: This is a little close up of the

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Jaime Martinez: The rendering of the property that you've seen, I'm sure on this presentation and other places.

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Jaime Martinez: And this is a view of the elevations. So you can kind of see there is the property on Main Street.

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Jaime Martinez: Which is only about, you know, two stories, plus a little peek roof, and it is taller than the building due to the way that the building is sort of set inside

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Jaime Martinez: Of the cutout from the steep slope. So the abilities not looking to dig into that wall anymore than it already has been, but rather put the building nestled in between the sort of the, the sheer Hill on the southern part of the property.

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Jaime Martinez: So a little bit about the ground floor layout. So the ground floor will have space for commercial opportunity opportunities right by the

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Jaime Martinez: waterfront and they're right by the Water Street and they were also be space for Community programming about 6100 square feet of ground floor retail space.

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Jaime Martinez: And 4600 square feet of Community space. And you can see here the retail is right by Water Street and the community spaces on the other side of the building with the lobby and the amenities for the people live in a building in the middle.

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Jaime Martinez: Of some of the public amenities. So in addition to the community space that's going to be in the building.

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Jaime Martinez: There are other major public amenities. One is the extension of the 16 kill Greenway from its current termination point on the north side of Central Avenue.

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Jaime Martinez: So it'll go from where it is now through the Central Avenue arch and would extend through the site, all the way to Water Street.

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Jaime Martinez: That's going to, you know, nearly double the size of the existing trip, which is I know fantastic for anybody who's ever, you know, wanted to walk on their own like to walk down there now.

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Jaime Martinez: The. This will also have increased green space along the 16 kill with some landscape sitting Park areas to attract pedestrians to the site and there's gonna you know be public access to the Water Street.

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Jaime Martinez: Connection with a consideration for potentially putting in a public elevator and staircase off of Main Street to get people down to Water Street without having to go down that hill.

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Jaime Martinez: Roster looking at a separate parking structure that would be across from the building on the other side of the sink sink Kell brook, and there would be 159 minutes for the building itself, as well as 48 public spaces for the village to use

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Jaime Martinez: And kind of get a sense of that here. This is the parking garage to kill

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Jaime Martinez: walkway extension.

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Jaime Martinez: So the project timeline. The approval requires a lot of steps to go through this process.

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Jaime Martinez: The beginning of the of this step was, you know, obviously the RFU that was put out in the selection of the preferred developer, which was completed last year.

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Jaime Martinez: At that point you we have to go through the process of developing the land acquisition and disposition agreement, which is

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Jaime Martinez: Is overseeing the the sale of the property to the developer from the village, as well as the community engagement process. And both of those items are currently ongoing

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Jaime Martinez: What's that process and we would look if if everything moves for two for the approval of the ladder, then it would move into the state environmental quality review and environmental impacts review.

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Jaime Martinez: It would be sent out to the environmental Advisory Council, which is a council for the village.

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Jaime Martinez: And if everything was done you know through that process, you could look to end the process with a negative declaration of adverse environmental impact.

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Jaime Martinez: And it would also need to go through site plan approval by the planning board. We have to get another special permit from the Board of Trustees. And at that point, we would look to implement the ladder itself.

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Jaime Martinez: So, today you're here obviously at a community engagement meeting and we are having a whole slate of

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Jaime Martinez: Community Engagement Meetings six. In fact, so the first meeting on this project was actually held in 1024. So this is not the first meeting.

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Jaime Martinez: That one was held on the site and you can see the video of that at Ossining DP W site com we also want you to attend the upcoming meetings, you could find the schedule at WWW dot village last name.org forward slash Ossining

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Jaime Martinez: Hyphen DW hyphen site or you can find it on the Community calendar on the front page which you can connect to from the front page.

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Jaime Martinez: And the dates of those are for the upcoming one is February 2 in February 13 in February 25 then March 9 and then March, a team and

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Jaime Martinez: They're going to be covering various different topics from the you know how the project is going to be financed to the Green Park.

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Jaime Martinez: The session sinks in kill the brownfield contamination impacts on schools and if you are interested in living in this property, how you would be able to apply to get into the building.

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Jaime Martinez: Now with that we want to hear from you. So we're here, you know, to get your questions and answer where we can take down notes and provide answers.

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Jaime Martinez: Later.

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Jaime Martinez: So first, you know, we definitely want you 10 future meetings and we want to hear from you today. So with that, I want to hand it back over to Karen.

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Karen Dattore: Thank you, Jaime. So, um, as we, you know,

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Karen Dattore: We hope we gave you a broad enough overview, but we're here really to get your comments answer any questions you

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Karen Dattore: You have and as you can see we have five more presentations after this that deal with the project from from more specific angles as well. So I'm happy to take questions right now. I'm seeing any hands up.

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Karen Dattore: Anybody

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Jaimie Hoffman: We have one person named Joe. Would you like me to promote them.

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Karen Dattore: Yes, please.

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Karen Dattore: That evening, Joe. But what is your question or comment.

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Joe: Dope. So I have to say I I think I like this project I'm increasing the concept

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Joe: I'd like to study the distribution of housing, a little bit.

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Joe: I'm a little concerned about

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Joe: Where

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Joe: What we're doing to encourage

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Joe: More market rate housing and awesome particularly types of units that are not stacked on this project, you know, we can accommodate a here, but I think the rest of the village, you should be cognizant particularly seniors who are living in big houses would like to get out of them.

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Joe: And we need a way to accommodate

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Joe: Because a lot of them have disposable income and costly really can use disposable income.

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Joe: But I like the I like the concept and also a bit concerned about number three bedroom units, particularly when it comes to, you know, large structures like this.

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Joe: The real important part of this is there needs to be space for kids that will obviously show up here because it's not a 55 and over development that they actually have a place to play besides the street.

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Joe: We have some kind of interesting examples of where we forgot about that and some projects that were built over the last 15 years and years.

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Joe: But i and i and i know later on we'll see the economic study next sort of something that's always near and dear to my heart.

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Joe: Because we all know the taxes that we're afford to hear, particularly when it comes to the school taxes.

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Joe: Not so much. I think the village has done a pretty good job of keeping things in line, but you know there's a there's a tail very big tail.

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Joe: Is on this dog called asked me pull the school district, you know, get a lot to say about what we build like a bear the impact of what comes so I will

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Joe: There was actually a question I saw with a hand raised before

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Joe: So I didn't think I get my chance this fast but anyway.

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Joe: I think so far I'm encouraged with design. By the way, if it turns out like that is is actually quite nice.

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Joe: considering some of the other edifices that we've actually built on the waterfront.

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Joe: This is sort of a major step forward.

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Karen Dattore: Thank you for that. I'm just, just briefly, because you mentioned a few different things.

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Karen Dattore: We are also in the process of our comprehensive plan and indeed we are looking at other ways to create

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Karen Dattore: multifamily opportunities and provide options for seniors and home ownership in smaller parcels and and more and keep you know

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Karen Dattore: In the areas in the T zone and the two families zone and other places village building in a line with already existing keeping the character and the flavor of the community, but also allowing for some of the things that you mentioned. And that's in addition to the work that we're doing.

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Karen Dattore: Looking at at this particular development on the DFW site. So thank you for that. I do notice that somebody has answered a question we were happy to read questions, you can also raise your hand. So I see a question in the Q AMP a box and this is from

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Karen Dattore: I'm Bob Schloss on Bob, I'm going to ask you, would you like to you like us to bring you up and you can ask these questions as I see you have a couple of questions here.

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Jaimie Hoffman: Is is

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Jaimie Hoffman: Bob, are you the eight. I don't know if you

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Karen Dattore: Know, but it says Bob Schloss says it so

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Jaimie Hoffman: Oh, I'm sorry. I see you now. Okay. Yeah.

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Bob Schloss: Okay, I'm unmuted.

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Bob Schloss: Very interesting. So I had three projects. Two of them are related to the environment and one to the construction process.

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Bob Schloss: So the one about the construction process is whether we can write our contract with Wilder Bolter, or would we want to or would they accept it. If we put this in the contract.

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Bob Schloss: That a certain percentage of the construction workforce or subcontractors be residents, let's say from the town of us, me, I'll just say the other two questions, and then I'll be quiet and listen to the answers.

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Bob Schloss: There was a study, maybe two years ago where a class from Cornell did a projection of how the waterfront would be affected by climate change over decades. So my second question is about anticipating

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Bob Schloss: Higher water levels from the Hudson at high tides during the life of the building. And the third question is about. If people who live there.

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Bob Schloss: End up owning electric vehicles will there be a way for them to charge. I did hear the comment that there might be a separate garage building. So those are my three questions. Thank you.

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Karen Dattore: So I'd like to direct these questions to Bill Balter to speak specifically certainly about the first one, but the other two. Also, I believe he can answer most effectively.

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Bill Balter: Good questions. I liked them on. So let me go backwards.

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Bill Balter: The electric we're actually really embracing electric and our developments, we just are carried on development, we just decided to do all electric

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Bill Balter: With all geothermal heating hot water. We have charging stations in the building, and I'm a big believer in it, so it will certainly have electric charging by in the garage.

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Bill Balter: We, we do a lot with local hiring. We actually in our pixel development have an apprenticeship program which is one thing we're doing. We also reach out to the village who

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Bill Balter: Start shooting. I guess the city rather when we're looking for to fill any job on the project for our own staff on the middle of the city, there has been very helpful, actually.

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Bill Balter: Similar issue we have an end web women and minority owned business requirements with the funding sources that are significant. And that is generally also leads to more local people working here on the question about

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Bill Balter: Yeah, sure. So we've looked at all. We have actually we have that model that

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Bill Balter: Seen a cotton as well that looked at the sea level rise, and we've actually been working with

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Bill Balter: Environmental group. And one of the funding agencies to make sure that the project is being developed.

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Bill Balter: in a sustainable way, not just for the current flood maps perfect future flood mapping. What's interesting about this site, briefly, because I just I think this will come up a lot now and in the environmental review process. What's interesting about this site is that

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Bill Balter: It's actually about seven feet higher than Harvard Square on this side of Water Street.

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Bill Balter: I guess Eastern Water Street decided actually rises up so that we don't really have the issue that necessarily would be on the other side of worst three on the harvest side, but we did raise our building to make sure that we wouldn't have issues with future flooding.

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Manuel R. Quezada: Carrie, man. I went about piggyback consultant. One of the questions though was related to the contract in here and I'm going to ask Paul to help me with this.

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Manuel R. Quezada: Because I think we are the sort of

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Manuel R. Quezada: Want to say that to people on this panel system many years back when the one of the first water. Water from projects was common through which is it was brought up.

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Manuel R. Quezada: The Ginsburg development there. One of the things that the Village Board did incorrectly from from mistaken. I'm Paul

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Manuel R. Quezada: We that we actually said that there should be a minimum our projects where it should be hiring local and it should be a training portion of that. So in regards to unions, the wagers so we actually, we had a past

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Manuel R. Quezada: I believe was a solution where we were encouraging this kind of

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Manuel R. Quezada: hiring local contractors and people to work on this project. And my understanding is when the case for Project capping there was actually local contractors that are higher for that particular project. So, did I miss something. Paul, you want to correct me some of that stuff.

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Paul Fraioli: I sure if the resolution.

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Paul Fraioli: Became legally binding in the ladder for that project, but I do recall that a lot of the subcontractors on that site. Well, a lot being the operative word there were subcontractors on that site that

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Paul Fraioli: Were local if not asking definitely close proximity and I do remember that there was labor force there that

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Paul Fraioli: Included asking residents. But I, again, I don't know if that was legally binding or just ended up like Bill had alluded to earlier just happens by default.

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Manuel R. Quezada: I'm going to go to the for that question. Not now, but store. Would you mind looking into that exactly what the language was and I go, I can go back to

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Manuel R. Quezada: Find my notes for many years back in regards to that. But I think we can. We should get definitely a clear, clear understanding of that and I definitely encourage our local workforce to be included in this project.

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Stuart Kahan: He may or that's the chapter 77 of the village code the apprenticeship training program.

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Manuel R. Quezada: Thank you for sure.

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Karen Dattore: Okay, thank you.

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Karen Dattore: We have one more person raising their hand. It's actually a number

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827 560 704: 827-560-7049 that's my baby.

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Karen Dattore: Sorry. Okay. Sorry about that. So we have two questions that came in and the q AMP. A. So these are from

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Karen Dattore: Emily sack. Can the building be engineered to accommodate a green roof. I understand that New York City requires that all new buildings have green roofs, which provide environmental services.

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Karen Dattore: I think Bill. That one's for you or

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Bill Balter: Well, yes, the building.

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Bill Balter: homier it's easy to do to bring up the building.

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Bill Balter: Rendering so we can point

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Bill Balter: Well who's doing that.

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Bill Balter: As was said during the presentation. The building climbs that held. Okay, great. So as you can see the building climbs that hill. So on the lowest level, the water street side of the building. You can see there's a flat roof that is actually a green roof, as is the level above it.

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Bill Balter: The sixth floor is also a green roof so they'll be green elements.

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Bill Balter: Not only for people to go on, be able to enjoy the views and to sit. They'll also be green infrastructure on the roof.

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Bill Balter: There may be as well on the main roof. We haven't gotten there yet.

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Bill Balter: They'll certainly be a good amount of green roofs on the building we're doing that right now in Peekskill and our development. We're about to start in Tarrytown we're also going to large

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Bill Balter: Again, we're big believers of it. And part of this is a lead. This will be a LEED Gold building as well. So one of the elements of that that makes it leave helps us to get the lead cold is that green room.

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Karen Dattore: Thank you.

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Jaimie Hoffman: And you're ready for the next person.

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Jaimie Hoffman: To seven. Okay.

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Karen Dattore: Sorry about that. Um, I got a little bit confused. But please, please, you're, you're on. And you can ask your question.

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827 560 704: I think it's myself this is Linda Levine, I have

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827 560 704: How are you several questions. Can you talk a little bit about the BROWNFIELDS AND

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827 560 704: What is the material that's actually good to be clean from that site.

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Karen Dattore: Bill, I think this is a this is something that maybe you and Paul can talk to Paul, do you want to like talk about just the history of the site and what's there.

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Paul Fraioli: So referencing Jaime's presentation. He detailed it a little bit more but it used to be a coal tar plant which

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Paul Fraioli: was eventually the site was eventually purchased by Con Edison, but during those coal tar operations.

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Paul Fraioli: Decades ago hundred years ago there was a byproduct of the acronym Dean apple, which

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Paul Fraioli: Don't ask me what each of those stands for

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Paul Fraioli: They were detected on the site and the migration of those contaminants that he Jaime alluded to in his presentation.

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Paul Fraioli: Was the same contaminant that they remediated Harvard Square, and I'll let bill get into it a little bit more by leading him in like this. I think a lot of the remediation, if you will, might be in situ remediation and to the point where some of it is just encapsulated

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Paul Fraioli: To be determined and monitored via wells, similar to the wells that they have down where site that the DC monitors and the remediation.

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Paul Fraioli: The end game the remediation is the highest level at the sea requires to construct residential housing residential housing dictates that the remediation is at its highest level bill.

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Bill Balter: Jack chime in, in a mobile specific answer to the materials that are the contaminants. But before I do, so let me show to give you that give this public sort of a higher

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Bill Balter: Level. Look at this. So content is responsible for cleaning up the property but clean up the day would do would not allow this property to be used in an economic

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Bill Balter: Significant kind of way, especially for residential housing. So, as was done on Harvard Square, where are they also have a site that was contaminated id by content.

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Bill Balter: In that case, Ginsburg took on to clean up and they did it because otherwise kind of would not have done it to that level.

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Bill Balter: So essentially what's going on is we want to have a site and I say we, I think the community and we in the village hall. Want a site.

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Bill Balter: Where they're not limitation, though, what can be done on the property. We want to have

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Bill Balter: Our residents here. We want to have retail community space and the linear part that allows people to go from the existing Greenway down through the property.

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Bill Balter: To the waterfront. So we want to get the site cleaned up to an extent greater than what kind of is required to do so with that jack. Can you just speak to the contaminants

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Jack Durkin: So based on tests borings that have been done on site, along with, you know,

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Jack Durkin: History about the site and knowledge there is remains from the content meet gas plant and it's specifically, there's a few tanks that are located underground about 15 feet underground that contain a coal tar remain that was

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Jack Durkin: That was used, or it was actually produced from the plants and certain tanks are actually still left on the site. There's about 15 feet underground so that you know they are considered contaminants and they're still located on the site. So

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Bill Balter: So that's all basically is that when you have a site like this the best comparison is the leaking oil in your house and you didn't know it was leaking over time. It contaminates all properties and essentially this property has been containment has been contaminated by the onsite.

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Bill Balter: Leakage but also is contaminated down river.

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Bill Balter: So I think part of it.

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Bill Balter: You know, the site and stop it from continuing to contaminate downstream.

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827 560 704: So are there going to be numerous agencies involved in the cleanup at the property.

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Bill Balter: The agency that's really involved here is New York State BC.

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Bill Balter: So we have. And that's through something called the New York State brownfield cleanup program.

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Bill Balter: Are doing that right now and a large development and nourish well done it in Larchmont and we're doing one right now in Peekskill all through the

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Bill Balter: Front of to create a program and it's essentially the governor's office created this program. Many years ago to take sites like this that would not have gotten redeveloped because the economics are too great to do this level of cleanup and they've created a program where they essentially

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Bill Balter: may give you a financial incentive to clean up the site as long as you do more than just clean up the site. They're trying to create

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Bill Balter: Development on a property like this so that it isn't just a part is in a park. But essentially, you're building, building that as

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Bill Balter: A multi level building just the way it works, you need to build something that's got some vertical size to in order for that program. That makes sense.

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Bill Balter: So we're basically following exactly what the program requires and while the other agencies involved in many aspects of this development, your own village much Chester County, in many ways, specifically the route the cleanup is through the DTC

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827 560 704: So the money will flow from New York it and and it flows from your state and it flows to the developers of the project is that the way it works.

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Bill Balter: It's a little more complicated than that because it's a very complicated financial project because of the Affordable housing. But essentially what happens is

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Bill Balter: The state issues tax credits that the equity provider in this development, who's helping to subsidize the affordable housing. They basically get the tax credits.

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Bill Balter: Okay, make sure it is part of your, sort of like your construction financing.

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827 560 704: Um, I just have one more question was to bolster I took a look at the project that you're developing in Peekskill, it looks, it looks very nice. I like the way that I know that area of Peekskill, I like the way the building blends into the neighborhood.

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827 560 704: It's not out of character and I want to compliment you on that. And I like the way the building.

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827 560 704: The prospective building looks at Austin. I wanted to ask, with the if there was going to be any healthy and that is specifically going to be for seniors or the handicapped in will come

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827 560 704: Already with safety bars in apartments and the handicapped units will have amenities adjusted for people, possibly in wheelchairs.

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Bill Balter: Love that question. So there are you fast units required, which is basically exactly what you're asking for. But the

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Bill Balter: Goal is 100% handicapped accessible and adaptable. But then some of the units. I couldn't tell you exactly how many, but my guess is it's about

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Bill Balter: 10 or 12 units in the building will be adapted as opposed to adaptable, meaning all of the measures. You just asked about will actually be done in. Yes.

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827 560 704: Okay. And I do have one more question. In terms of the taxes. Is this going to be a pilot or

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Bill Balter: So the answer, which is very general because it needs to be is that we are anticipating that a pilot will be necessary for this to be viable, but we

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827 560 704: Okay. Religion need to work that out. Okay, I realized that questions premature, but I was just curious. Thank you very much again that building in Peekskill looks like it's lovely. Thank you.

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Karen Dattore: Thank you, Linda. We have a question that was written in this is from Giuliana Simon socks. I know that there has been a call out for community outreach in the past and there is a 11 people on this call. But actually, since that that email on that message, it's up to

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Karen Dattore: What is going to be done to involve more people in the conversation. This is a great question. And when we, you know, always struggle with. So as you know, we we're doing this tonight, but this is being recorded this presentation that you saw tonight will be pushed out

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Karen Dattore: It will be available on websites will be pushed out through social media and if you can't be here if you want to share this with your friends, please do so, we will be able to write in

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Karen Dattore: During the presentation. Jaime listed different all the informations there of when you can send emails you can call us.

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Karen Dattore: You can get your input and we will have many opportunities throughout the next several weeks to get a lot of input.

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Karen Dattore: So we're working on as many ways to do this. But what we wanted to do, because we know it's really hard.

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Karen Dattore: For everybody to come out on a particular night is make sure that all these things are recorded and available and shared widely and that people know that they can continue to ask questions.

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Karen Dattore: We have a rolling List of QA that is updated regularly will be updating it subsequent to this meeting. So that's another place to get a lot of information, but really

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Karen Dattore: This is something that that we always struggle with is making sure that we engage enough people and we sincerely want to have as much input as possible so

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Karen Dattore: Again, we'll be sharing this if you have any thoughts about other ways we might be able to communicate. We're happy to hear that as well. So

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Karen Dattore: Thank you for that question. But we will be pushing this information out and as many ways as possible. And you can always call the village 16 Croton avenue for more information or respond to the email addresses that were provided

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Karen Dattore: On the

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Jaime Martinez: Yeah, I can. If I could just add to that we did you know this is going out through the E blast, of course, which has about 6000 residents was on Facebook. It was seen we have stats on that seen by about 3000 people

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Jaime Martinez: And, you know, of course, along with the ongoing series, there's just been a ton of outreach. I know that the mayor's message did

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Jaime Martinez: Have reference to this so you know it's tough even encoded times to to even in non code times I stuff to get, you know, all the people you want you can never have enough people, but we are certainly working as hard as we can to make sure that everyone knows about this project.

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Rika Levin: So if I could just add, it's always a challenge. I personally know that there has to be other zoom meetings, since I was invited to them.

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Rika Levin: Going on tonight with with village residents. So people who are active tend to be active on many things.

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Rika Levin: So there's always a competition, but I'll be honest with you, you know, the reality is that 11 people on this call. I'm send out to all of your friends makes it 11,000 so

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Rika Levin: We are encouraging people. I also recognize that given technology these days. It's actually has become convenient for some people not to

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Rika Levin: Participate here, but actually say to themselves, You know, I'm a late night person. I'll look at it during lunch tomorrow. So I'm actually quite optimistic that

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Rika Levin: I would rather see 100 people on this call, but I'm also optimistic that the technology allows us to be really widely spread, but I truly find that if each person on here, ask the questions. Everything's being recorded.

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Rika Levin: Send it around to everybody, you know, and if you think that there are people interested or can add

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Rika Levin: Material information in other communities that may have gone through this, that may be know the developer that may be interested in

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Rika Levin: The this project may experience it, we're truly encouraging people these we've set up to six sessions, because we want to have more not less conversation about something that affects us in is a multi year project and will be with us for decades to come. Truthfully,

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Rika Levin: everybody on this call is really wanting more and more engagement. That's the whole goal here.

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Jaime Martinez: Yeah, and I'm sorry to keep adding to this. But one other thing I the last time that this came in for the Board of Trustees for discussion.

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Jaime Martinez: You know, one of the big things is we need signs up in front of the

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Jaime Martinez: Property talking about the project, there's huge signs right out in front. And one of the other concerns was, well, what about the people who live next door. And so we went flattered every single house in the area. I did that, personally, so I know what happened.

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Karen Dattore: Thank you. So we are happy to take more questions. So if you have a question you want to type it in, or raise your hand, please feel free. We we set this time aside and we're we're more than happy to answer more questions.

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Jaimie Hoffman: We have another one from Julia Simon Fox. I'm gonna bring her over

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Karen Dattore: Okay, great.

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julianasimonfox: Hi, I'm more about the community engagement is this information also going to be available in Spanish for folks.

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Karen Dattore: I guess. So on the website. Everything is translating in Spanish, and we do put out

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Karen Dattore: The posts in English and Spanish and, if necessary, or required, we can arrange to have. We have several native Spanish speakers here.

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Karen Dattore: If somebody requires translation, we can. So the written material, the post. Everything is done in English and Spanish and, if necessary, we can

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Karen Dattore: Have questions asked in Spanish as well and we are looking at ways where we may be able to get as we record these the transcripts of these meetings translated to Spanish to that's something we're looking at.

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Rika Levin: If I may add to that, please. If you know of a group, assuming social distancing, etc. I have taken

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Rika Levin: Individuals down to give them a tour of the area. I'm happy to do that. If you have five 615 people were wearing masks and we're socially distance and I'm happy to take

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Rika Levin: Them down. I do have somebody that can translate as we're walking so I'm I am at Mayor at village of ossining.org we're all at BLT at village of Ossining the.org

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Rika Levin: So please contact if you have a group of, you know, as long as we maintain under a pandemic appropriate distancing. I'm happy to to do a tour, if you will, of the area and the downtown and answer questions that I can. And what I can't answer will write them down and we'll get back to you.

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Karen Dattore: He. We have a question that was just typed in from Marissa Caruso. Is there any way a certain number of units can be set aside specifically

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Karen Dattore: To address housing needs for current Ossining residents. So this is a great question. And certainly we want to do things for the residents. Laughing That's, that's a big driver of this project.

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Karen Dattore: There are certain rules in in developing housing that especially this type of housing that prohibits you from

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Karen Dattore: reserving the housing, just for residents of your community. And that's because that's really an anti discrimination feature because, as you can imagine, there are communities where if

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Karen Dattore: They build housing and said, no one else can move there that would be problematic. So, so that is that is not something

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Karen Dattore: Given the nature of funding for this project. And the way it's been done it's it's really against fair housing practices, however.

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Karen Dattore: When we're talking about are we building this to the needs of asking residents. That is something that absolutely is is in the forefront here because

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Karen Dattore: The project is designed based on the needs assessment that we did for Austin residence what typically happens and and I think maybe bill can speak to this.

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Karen Dattore: I can speak to this as well from from my former experience.

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Karen Dattore: When I'm whether buildings like this, or at least up the either first come first serve or buy lottery, the vast majority of Africans tend to be from the community where the building is located, thus increasing the

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Karen Dattore: Potential dramatically that residents will get into those buildings. Also, what happens is as those buildings, you know, these are rental property. So they lease up annually.

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Karen Dattore: Once you're on the waiting list again the annual Lisa, those weren't done by lottery. That's just filling

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Karen Dattore: As as a unit become available going off a waiting list so that also increases the chances for residents of the community to be served, but

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Karen Dattore: Unfortunately, you know, as much as we'd like to do things specific for our community. It's very difficult to define that. And it's very, very difficult to do that in a way that this one the risk of

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Karen Dattore: Being discriminatory. So, Bill, I don't know, you might want to add. You have a lot of experience doing this throughout the county so

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Bill Balter: Perhaps you want to

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Karen Dattore: Add

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Bill Balter: Two things I would say. Our first turn what kind of said is really very true when we

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Bill Balter: This will be a lottery, because it's required to be a lottery and they'll be a lot of people know lottery from all over the place, including last night. But the people actually end up living there.

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Bill Balter: Generally speaking we own and manage about 3400 apartments, I think. So we have a lot of sort of data about this people end up living there.

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Bill Balter: For the most part, one have a connection to where they live. It isn't just about affordable housing, it's about affordable housing and a place that they want to live.

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Bill Balter: And while there are exceptions to that. A great percentage of the people who

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Bill Balter: Live here will have a local connection and maybe that they don't live in a city now but they work in Austin and they drive

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Bill Balter: 45 minutes to get here. Maybe they work in a school district. And maybe if they work, a town away, but you're going to going to get a lot of local people who actually end up living here as Karen said, and it's true by our data.

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Bill Balter: Every year percentage of local people gets higher, because as the building it's older you get more local people and you're waiting list and you end up having that happen.

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Bill Balter: The other thing I'll say is that we're very active as our others at building affordable housing was just incredibly hard to do.

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Bill Balter: But just like we can't give a preference and Ossining frosting people a chapter called crossing and Tarrytown on a couple of projects we built in the town of Cortland proteins.

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Bill Balter: We can't get preference there either. So essentially what we all need to be doing is building affordable housing so that

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Bill Balter: The residents who wanted to live in Austin, but there were no affordable housing or live in our development and round topping Cortland you know

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Bill Balter: They get to live in that development because we couldn't just give preference there for Cortland residents. So essentially this is a all of our problem. And I think by building increase the inventory of affordable housing Westchester, it helps with the overall problem.

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Karen Dattore: Thank you.

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Karen Dattore: We have any other questions.

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Karen Dattore: Amy, you see any

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Jaimie Hoffman: And I saw Joe had a question. Again, but it looks like he's put his hand back down.

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Jaimie Hoffman: There he is again I'm going to bring Joe. One more time. All right. Thank you.

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Karen Dattore: Hey, Joe. Welcome back.

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Joe: I had my question, you actually answered three times. You said it's a it's a rental property. It's not enough for purchase. The only other thing, and I know we talked about the

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Joe: Harvard Square project and I think Bill Walter mentioned the fact that this property is about seven feet higher than Harvard Square.

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Joe: I've been around this town long enough to remember three or four feet of water in front of the DP W garage in in one of the reasons that

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Joe: A compelling bailed out literally on that person. And for some reason, decided to keep the property was more underwater.

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Joe: Was because he felt he could build on the site. Now, I think it's great that you're figuring out how to manage that. But I know, and I think call been around long enough to know, three or four times where that piece of Water Street is three, four feet on the floor.

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Joe: So anyway, that's great. And the only other thing I wanted to say is that I really think that that story is to sort of got that Sean Connery look

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Joe: Anyway. Have a good night. This was great. I think I'm going to go listen to see

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Karen Dattore: Thank you, um, any other questions.

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Jaimie Hoffman: I don't see anybody else right now.

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Rika Levin: Okay.

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Karen Dattore: All right. Well, listen. Thank you all for joining. We are, again, we'll be having more of these. So stay tuned. Keep field will be posting this so you can review it.

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Karen Dattore: And please, if you think of a question call email it in just just we are here. We were we're excited and enthused to be doing things and

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Karen Dattore: In a way that really serves the needs of our community. So we want to hear from you. We want your input, because that's what will make this the best possible project. It can be so he's I see

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Karen Dattore: I knew if I talk long enough, somebody else.

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Karen Dattore: With their hand.

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Jaimie Hoffman: It's Joe and burn. I'm gonna bring that person over. Thank you.

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Karen Dattore: Good evening.

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Jaimie Hoffman: John Byrne, you need to unmute your

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joeandbern: Computer, sorry.

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Karen Dattore: That's okay.

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joeandbern: I'm all done on

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joeandbern: On a gap. But anyway, I brought a debt to Angeles and I live in the town, but I'm you know I'm always thinking about where I would

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joeandbern: Be going to, I'm going to my children are grown and I live in a pretty big house for me. How many parking spaces are going to be in the garage.

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Bill Balter: And 159 for the apartments and roughly about 45 or 48 in addition for villages.

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joeandbern: So how many

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joeandbern: How do you determine who gets parking spaces in the residentially why

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Bill Balter: I'm depending on what the village asks us to do. We will determine it one way or another. Sometimes we do assign parking. Sometimes we don't wall parking is always a big concern we find in buildings like this where you have your sort of near downtown you near a train.

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Bill Balter: We actually think this building will be way over Park, there'll be certain people have two cars. Certainly.

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Bill Balter: Right. Certainly be people would know cars. So we will probably advocate to not to assign parking because what happens is you assign

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Bill Balter: A number of parking spaces for each unit. It doesn't he doesn't allow for their variation and people having cars. And so my assumption is as long as we don't do assigned parking, we will have well more than enough for

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joeandbern: Also

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joeandbern: Somebody like me who's retired quite tired, I should say.

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joeandbern: And not a not fond of walking, especially on hills.

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joeandbern: I've always thought, why couldn't you have a kidney service.

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joeandbern: Up into the village into shopping areas, back and forth. If I drive. Now, of course, but I mean, there may come a time when I won't thrive and I will walk up the hill.

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joeandbern: And I will order online everything, you know, I want to go to church and I want to go.

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joeandbern: meet friends and so on and so forth. What about a jitney service and who would that be provided the fly.

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Karen Dattore: So,

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Karen Dattore: High Jonas Karen dettori a jitney service wouldn't be necessarily part of this project.

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Karen Dattore: Yeah. However, there is, um, you know, the village is looking at right now. We're also involved in parking and transportation study and various things to look at ways we can make

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Karen Dattore: It easier to get around in our village in a more sustainable way and serve people who may decide they don't want cars anymore they they prefer to use a jitney and

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Karen Dattore: Car service when they need to, so those are actually things we're looking at

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Karen Dattore: And there are several companies now and this is becoming more and more popular, we're looking at them. And this is where really keen on trying to maybe even pilot. Some of these services in the relatively near future.

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Karen Dattore: There's different electric vehicles, different types of jitney type things and trolleys that are are becoming more prevalent typically they they

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Karen Dattore: You know, they start in larger communities where there's more value. One of the challenges we have is, we're a little bit on the small side and we have a lot of hills.

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Karen Dattore: But I think that

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Karen Dattore: I think that this is a trend that is here to stay and it's something that we're very supportive of promoting. So while it's not necessarily a component of this particular project. We hope to see that type of transportation in the future and asked me.

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joeandbern: Back to the parking parking. In addition, of course, in addition to rentals, but any idea how much that will cost.

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Bill Balter: Working is actually free for the tenants. There's no charge to the tenants.

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joeandbern: Ah, OK.

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Bill Balter: Just a while it may not be something you're interested in just because we are the public zoom call I neglected to mention that one of the things we started to do that, we will do here is, we'll have charging in the garage.

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Bill Balter: For bikes as well. So that one of the challenges in Ossining would be writing mortar streets up that hill to the dental town with alone with electric bike that's not a challenge.

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joeandbern: I have to think about that, then

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joeandbern: Thank you all.

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Karen Dattore: Have a lovely evening. Thank you.

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Karen Dattore: So, um, any additional questions now. Now's your opportunity. We want to hear from you.

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Karen Dattore: Okay, then I'm

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Karen Dattore: Good. I think that

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Karen Dattore: We were very happy to be here tonight. We will be back. And again, feel free to contact us.

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Karen Dattore: All of us that the manager.

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Karen Dattore: Jaime call we're all available or emails are available on the website as well as the Board of Trustees and the mayor.

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Karen Dattore: Assistant village managers I hatched. We're all readily available to answer your questions and we can certainly refer those questions to our developer here, Bill, Walter and his partner jack dark and so

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Karen Dattore: again for coming tonight. Yes.

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Maddi Zachacz: I just want to add if folks. Do you want to get in touch with everybody who's on here plan P as in Peter L as in Larry a as an apple N as in Nancy at village of ossining.org will get the entire board of trustees, as well as Karen myself and

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Manuel R. Quezada: Thank you, Matt. It was going to mention that

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Manuel R. Quezada: Thank you for that.

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Karen Dattore: Yeah, so we have a lot of ways we can

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Karen Dattore: Be reached it's hard for us to to be out of reach. So, and we're happy, happy to be in touch with everybody. So again, thank you, everybody. Thank you to

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Karen Dattore: While they're Balter partners tonight. Thank you to the village staff. Thank you to the Board of Trustees and Thank you Mayor and Jamie Hoffman, who has as coordinated all of this to who's behind the scenes there on the riverfront

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Karen Dattore: Have a lovely evening, and we will see you soon.

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Rika Levin: Good night, everybody.

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Jack Durkin: Thank you.

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